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Originally Posted by UR2EZ
you point #1 - having doubts about the intelligence reports you put out, and slanting the intelligence doesn't change what the senators read.
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we elect and pay our congressman to use their own judgement to weigh the information presented to them and make the correct decision. the correct decision with regard to iraq was to not invade, but rather to allow the inspections to proceed and continue isolating saddam.
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#2 - the foremost political and military analysts in the WORLD agree that GHWB SHOULD have invaded Iraq fully, and disposed Saddam at that time
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which leaders are you referring to?
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#3 - then who is the world police, the UN? that's like the mexican police!! the peacekeepers rape women in Darfur, 6 officials now indicted for oil -for-food scandal, 3 others for being on Saddams' payroll
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there is no world police force. leaders work within the system (UN, bilateral treaties, Nato, etc) and speak out when necessary to bring about change. although the US is a major force, we are not strong enough to solve the problems we face on our own. once you realize you can't beat the world into submission (if only GWB realized this 5 years ago) you learn to build consensus and form coalitions to isolate your enemies. it may not be the quickest solution, but its more effective in the long run.
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as for the original topic, i'm focusing on what the individuals are wasting.... not what all members of congress voted on
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fair enough. i think we are on the same page in this regard, i just think there are bigger sources of waste than what any individual congressman can generate.
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^ we're living it up over here, in the richest, most powerful country in the world, how selfish of you to not wanna help another country.
yeah we're building lots of schools and bridges over there, cuz they didn't have any
you libs can be such hypocrites sometimes, claiming to be humanitarian.... free Tibet, but nor Iraq right? free Darfur, but not Iraq right? why?uz GWB wants to do it, so we have to be against it
it's called Bush Derangement Syndrome
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we have limited resources and i think you have prioritize where we put our efforts. i personally believe stabilizing afghanistan, dealing with the genocide in darfur, and the myriad of humanitarian disasters in africa are far more important than 'rooting out terrorists' (who weren't there) in Iraq. as for your assertion that its simply bush bashing, i have a hard time believing any American president would get a free pass for the fiasco we've gotten ourselves into in Iraq. Indeed, when we embarked on another dubious nation-building exercise in somalia under bill clinton, it was the republicans who said we shouldn't be the world police and that we should be putting our efforts elsewhere.