DIY: Add a sub to your Bose equipped G35 Coupe
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01-06-2007, 09:54 AM
They accept both inputs (Hi and Low). They used the low at first. And it just wasn't loud at all. Moderate at best. They then broke the low level plug and then used a Tsunami line level converter (I don't know if its adjustable) to fix it and it worked better. So they must be coming from pre amp now that I think about it. I think i messed up the first explanation, my bad. So ok, they used a line level converter post HD pre bose amp. So, I now get a strong signal to the amps.
I have 2 amps, both DUB Audio (I believe its Audiobahn) DUB Mag Audio DUB1004 100x4 and DUB Mag Audio DUB2802 1000x1. I have 2 10" Audiobahn 600w subs in a front ported bandpass box. I also have a Power Acoustik PCNC-2.0F cap. I have MB Quart in the doors.
I was beginning to think that my battery wasn't strong enough to push the amperage, or my alternator is weak. I've had 4 amps in my last Honda and never even saw even a slight power drop in lights or anything. Without a cap.
Thanks for your input guys. and I forgot to mention that your install
I have 2 amps, both DUB Audio (I believe its Audiobahn) DUB Mag Audio DUB1004 100x4 and DUB Mag Audio DUB2802 1000x1. I have 2 10" Audiobahn 600w subs in a front ported bandpass box. I also have a Power Acoustik PCNC-2.0F cap. I have MB Quart in the doors.
I was beginning to think that my battery wasn't strong enough to push the amperage, or my alternator is weak. I've had 4 amps in my last Honda and never even saw even a slight power drop in lights or anything. Without a cap.
Thanks for your input guys. and I forgot to mention that your install
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01-30-2007, 03:55 PM
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Got a question from the install pic. Just trying to get all the install in my head before I go tearing into my G. In the far left there is a telephone looking cord and a set of two wires, what are those?
Plus in the wiring pic I do not see the purple wire, was it not connected? I see 4 tapping connectors though.
Seems easy enough, nice writeup...
Plus in the wiring pic I do not see the purple wire, was it not connected? I see 4 tapping connectors though.
Seems easy enough, nice writeup...
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02-19-2007, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by caelric
Very nice work, and awesome write-up. Whenever I see a good write up like this, I wish I had done the same with my install. I've got a 10w6v2 in a 4080 box, with a 500/1 pushing it, same as you. I've got very different signal connections, due to the complete removal of the Bose amp on my setup, but I've got an 05 (with no bluetooth) so I could do that. Not sure what the solution for the 06'2 is.
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Dave
so many questions... can anyone help? i'm working on a 2006 coupe, prem w/ bose.
Q1. will replacing the bose amp mess up bluetooth functionality??
Q2. is disabling the rear 6x9's after putting in a box pretty much consensus?
Q3. for the sub's amp's RCA inputs, you should only convert one pair of +/- to be converted, right? either Right or Left from the rear, right?
i eventually want to get to a 500/5 pushing aftermarket speakers and a sub
but what i can afford now is adding a 4080 being pushed by an amp from my old car. i'd rather avoid installation fees, but i'm finding i have no idea what i'm doing with this g!
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02-20-2007, 09:23 AM
Originally Posted by estiel
so many questions... can anyone help? i'm working on a 2006 coupe, prem w/ bose.
Q1. will replacing the bose amp mess up bluetooth functionality??
Q2. is disabling the rear 6x9's after putting in a box pretty much consensus?
Q3. for the sub's amp's RCA inputs, you should only convert one pair of +/- to be converted, right? either Right or Left from the rear, right?
i eventually want to get to a 500/5 pushing aftermarket speakers and a sub
but what i can afford now is adding a 4080 being pushed by an amp from my old car. i'd rather avoid installation fees, but i'm finding i have no idea what i'm doing with this g!
Q1. will replacing the bose amp mess up bluetooth functionality??
Q2. is disabling the rear 6x9's after putting in a box pretty much consensus?
Q3. for the sub's amp's RCA inputs, you should only convert one pair of +/- to be converted, right? either Right or Left from the rear, right?
i eventually want to get to a 500/5 pushing aftermarket speakers and a sub
but what i can afford now is adding a 4080 being pushed by an amp from my old car. i'd rather avoid installation fees, but i'm finding i have no idea what i'm doing with this g!
I don't have this answer since my car doesn't have Bluetooth.
Q2. is disabling the rear 6x9's after putting in a box pretty much consensus?
Yes, if you add a sub since that is what the 6x9's are supposed to be. I prefer to actually remove the 6x9's from the car altogether to allow more bass into the interior from the trunk, but you have to remove a lot of interior panels, so it may not be as feasable for you to do it, depending on your skill level.
Q3. for the sub's amp's RCA inputs, you should only convert one pair of +/- to be converted, right? either Right or Left from the rear, right?
that depends on the configuration capabilities of your amp. Tap into the signal wires BEFORE they go into the Bose amp.
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02-20-2007, 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by estiel
Thanks Sean! i'm buying the ebay service manual ($5, looks like a pirated copy), i guess that will answer all my wiring questions... that SpeakerWire -> RCA was throwing me for a loop, but i did a bunch of research and think i got it all figured out!
thanks again man.
thanks again man.
BOSE WIRING COLORS AND SPEAKER SIZES
Factory speaker harness wiring colors
Front Right + Gray/Silver
Front Right - Yellow/Silver
Front Left + Green/Silver
Front Left - Red/Silver
Rear Door Right + Brown/Silver
Rear Door Right - Black/Silver
Rear Door Left + Green/Yellow
Rear Door Left - Black/Yellow
Rear Deck Right + Blue/Red
Rear Deck Right - Blue/White
Rear Deck Left + Blue/Yellow
Rear Deck Left - White/Green
Head unit output colors
The (+) are all on the same side of the connector.
Head Output Front Right + Orange/Blue
Head Output Front Right - White/Blue
Head Output Front Left + White
Head Output Front Left - Orange
Head Output Rear Right + Blue
Head Output Rear Right - Pink
Head Output Rear Left + Teal
Head Output Rear Left - Purple
Remote Wire Light Blue/ Silver
BOSE SPEAKER SIZES
COUPE
The tweeters are exactly 5/8" deep and about 1-5/8" in diameter (at the largest point).
You don't have to take the whole door off to get to them to look (you would to disconnect the wires). Just pop off the clips that hold the black plastic panel down.
I also know that Infinity Kappa Perfect 6.1 tweeters fit, as do the tweeters from the MB Quart PCE 216 set.
With the lower door speakers, the stock measurements are: 6-3/8" in dia. with 2.5" of depth.
I think just about any 6.5" speaker will fit, but holes will have to be drilled (Roll up the window first) for any.
The rear side speakers are EXACTLY the same as the lower door speakers. Same part number and everything. Strangely there is no tweeter (or even a cone) on any speaker in the back. See my other thread about possible mounting depths. I made a spacer but there were other great ideas on how to mount better speakers back there.
The 6" X 9" speakers in the rear deck are: 6.5" X 9-3/16" and 3-3/8" deep. Again, I think any 6X9 will fit here.
These are all standard six openings and any install shop can easily do this. If you are doing it yourself, I recommend buying a new 3/16" or 1/8" titanium (for metal drilling, I used Bosch brand from Home Depot, a couple bucks) drill bit. Just drills alot easier through metal in the doors.
As for the screw hole dimensions... just drill. Infiniti uses a weird 3 hole set up for their 6.5" mid ranges that you won't ever match up exactly.
The tweeter will be held down by the stock metal bracket. If your new tweeters are a little loose in the bracket, wrap them in weather stripping or something similar.
The 6" X 9" speakers are standard mounts in the four "corners" of the speaker.
SEDAN
The fronts can fit the same 6 1/2 inch separates as the coupe. I thought the rear door speakers were 6 1/2 also, but they are smaller - perhaps 5 1/4 to 6 - which doesn't really matter because you'll have to make spacers anyway. My sedan has a pair of 6 1/2 coaxials in the door.
The sedans bith the Bose have an 8 inch sub. IMO, don't bother replacing it. Just get a bigger sub in the trunk.
Factory speaker harness wiring colors
Front Right + Gray/Silver
Front Right - Yellow/Silver
Front Left + Green/Silver
Front Left - Red/Silver
Rear Door Right + Brown/Silver
Rear Door Right - Black/Silver
Rear Door Left + Green/Yellow
Rear Door Left - Black/Yellow
Rear Deck Right + Blue/Red
Rear Deck Right - Blue/White
Rear Deck Left + Blue/Yellow
Rear Deck Left - White/Green
Head unit output colors
The (+) are all on the same side of the connector.
Head Output Front Right + Orange/Blue
Head Output Front Right - White/Blue
Head Output Front Left + White
Head Output Front Left - Orange
Head Output Rear Right + Blue
Head Output Rear Right - Pink
Head Output Rear Left + Teal
Head Output Rear Left - Purple
Remote Wire Light Blue/ Silver
BOSE SPEAKER SIZES
COUPE
The tweeters are exactly 5/8" deep and about 1-5/8" in diameter (at the largest point).
You don't have to take the whole door off to get to them to look (you would to disconnect the wires). Just pop off the clips that hold the black plastic panel down.
I also know that Infinity Kappa Perfect 6.1 tweeters fit, as do the tweeters from the MB Quart PCE 216 set.
With the lower door speakers, the stock measurements are: 6-3/8" in dia. with 2.5" of depth.
I think just about any 6.5" speaker will fit, but holes will have to be drilled (Roll up the window first) for any.
The rear side speakers are EXACTLY the same as the lower door speakers. Same part number and everything. Strangely there is no tweeter (or even a cone) on any speaker in the back. See my other thread about possible mounting depths. I made a spacer but there were other great ideas on how to mount better speakers back there.
The 6" X 9" speakers in the rear deck are: 6.5" X 9-3/16" and 3-3/8" deep. Again, I think any 6X9 will fit here.
These are all standard six openings and any install shop can easily do this. If you are doing it yourself, I recommend buying a new 3/16" or 1/8" titanium (for metal drilling, I used Bosch brand from Home Depot, a couple bucks) drill bit. Just drills alot easier through metal in the doors.
As for the screw hole dimensions... just drill. Infiniti uses a weird 3 hole set up for their 6.5" mid ranges that you won't ever match up exactly.
The tweeter will be held down by the stock metal bracket. If your new tweeters are a little loose in the bracket, wrap them in weather stripping or something similar.
The 6" X 9" speakers are standard mounts in the four "corners" of the speaker.
SEDAN
The fronts can fit the same 6 1/2 inch separates as the coupe. I thought the rear door speakers were 6 1/2 also, but they are smaller - perhaps 5 1/4 to 6 - which doesn't really matter because you'll have to make spacers anyway. My sedan has a pair of 6 1/2 coaxials in the door.
The sedans bith the Bose have an 8 inch sub. IMO, don't bother replacing it. Just get a bigger sub in the trunk.
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04-20-2007, 09:10 PM
