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08-21-2008, 10:22 AM
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Still Swirls after polishing. Need advice
I have a black 2005 G35 Coupe. When I got the car it was in bad shape the previous owner, just didn't take care of the car and the entire car was full of swirls and micro scratches. I spent alot of money and time trying to fix it and with some success.
The problem I am having is with the hood of the car. After spending another 2hours on it last night and still having micro scatches and swirls on it I am thinking I need a deeper cut to get rid of all of them. I am currently using Menzerna PO91E with orange cutting pads, then Final Polish PO85U (white pads), then Finishing Glaze PO115CQ (black) I was thinking should I get (Power gloss compound) http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-pow...-compound.html with (Yellow CCS 6.5) http://www.eshine.ca/lake_country_cc...-25.php?cat=28 Any suggestions would be apperciated. Thanks 
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#3
08-21-2008, 11:02 AM
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Can you explain exactly how you are polishing, i.e., how much polish are you putting on the pad, what speed are you using, how slowly are you moving the pad when polishing, how long are you polishing each application, are you polishing until the polish goes clear or dusts, are you applying pressure to the pad, are you bogging the machine down? With that info, I can help.
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#4
08-21-2008, 11:13 AM
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This is the technique that I am following
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZVDsiEQ8-w I go alittle slower and a few more passes I keep going until it dusts (but I also tried stopping before it dusts), and I apply about a quater sized to about a 2x2 foot area of the hood. I also applied a decent amount of pressure I would say about 25 pounds of downward force. I would say the machine does get bogged down. Thank you for your help.
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#5
08-21-2008, 11:24 AM
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Personally, I would use less than a quarter size like they used. But that shouldn't cause your problem. Make sure you use a towel to clean the pad after every application. Press the towel into the pad and turn on the PC. This will remove excess polish. Do you have any pictures of the hood?
One thing I've noticed is that the PC is MUCH more powerful if you use 4" pads instead of the larger pads. I've used the Menzerna Intensive Polish that you are using and it has removed a decent amount of swirls from my black coupe. Here is an informative post. http://www.autopia.org/forum/machine...s-pads-pc.html You might want to get the Purple Foam Wool pads referred to in that post.
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#6
08-21-2008, 11:46 AM
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Black is a beotch! It does initially sound that you are not getting deep enough BUT that is not certain yet. Pictures would be a big help.
One thing I would suggest is wiping the surface down with a 50/50 IPA/water solution (IPA - isopropyl alcohol aka rubbing alcohol) after polishing. This removes any oils or haze that the polishes might leave behind allowing you to inspect the surface better. Often times not removing the polish completely can fool you into thinking your surface has imperfections when it's only residual streaking.
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#7
08-21-2008, 12:16 PM
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Thank you everyone for the help so far.
I will get the pictures to you tonight after work, the swirls and micro scratches are basically only visible under the direct sun or using a florescent light. I put a florescent light in my helper lamp to examine my work after each pass because that light really shows any imperfections. I always clear the polish off with the alcohol mix so I am sure they are the scratches and not just residue. So you think that upping the pad / polish wouldn't solve the problem?
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#9
08-21-2008, 01:03 PM
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Ok so I was thinking of getting
Foamed Wool Polishing/Buffing Pad (just in case the yellow is not enough) http://www.eshine.ca/foamed_wool_pol...435.php?cat=28 4" Yellow Cutting Pad http://www.eshine.ca/4_yellow_cutting_pad-204.php (the correct back plate 3.5 inch) http://www.eshine.ca/35_flexible_bac...ate_da-203.php Power Gloss http://www.eshine.ca/menzerna_powerg...275.php?cat=12 Should I add something / remove something?
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#10
08-21-2008, 04:56 PM
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Ok I ordered the Menzerna PowerGloss POS34A and 4" yellow pad and the 4" Wool Pad.
I also added in the Menzerna Nano Polish PO106FF Just in case. I will post the before pictures today after work and the after pictures once its done. Wish me luck 
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#11
08-21-2008, 06:03 PM
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Ok here are the before pics
The pictures are taken with a florescent light. Please be kind I realize these are some bad swirls    
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#13
08-21-2008, 06:49 PM
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Wow...those are bad.
Powergloss will definitely take that out, and 106ff will burnish it to a super high gloss for you. Keep us posted on your results with 4" pads. If I were you, and you have the time, I'd try the same polish you already used to see if the difference. Powergloss will cut with a cutip, so it will be hard to compare pads.
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2007 G35 Sedan | Ivory Pearl | Navigation | Premium | H&R | 19" OEM | 35% Tint | LED Interior
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#14
08-22-2008, 11:12 AM
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Quote:
I agree with using the Intensive Polish first. Always use the least aggressive combination first. Otherwise, go for it. You spent 2 hours already trying to get those out... ? 
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#15
08-22-2008, 11:16 AM
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Yeah that is basically after about 30 min of Intensive polish and the orange pad,
its seems hard to beleive but it did take out some of the swirls just left a whole bunch still in the clearcoat.
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