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Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

I have 2 coats of NXT on my black G35 Sedan and am still not that impressed (and the 2nd coat was put on with an orbital buffer). I still have a lot of swirl marks (especially on the hood and roof). I know Zaino is the best, but I just don't have the time for it. I was thinking of trying Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba wax next. I've read a lot of good things about this carnuba wax; it's only $10 more than the Meguiars NXT. Does anyone have any experience with the Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba wax and if so, how will it do with my black G35? Thanks.

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

I have used it for the last 2 wax jobs on my silver coupe and I'm very pleased with the results--very easy to apply and buff and shiny. It's definitely the smoothest-to-the-touch I have personally ever felt--heck, it's so smooth, it's slippery (I have not done Zaino though, so I can't compare that). Water still beaded pretty good after 3-4 months on the first application. I am 2 months into this application (several car washes using high-pressure hoses, I might add) and it is still holding up well. I highly recommend the Pinnacle! Please let us know how it looks on black; I'm very curious, even though I don't have a black car.

Btw, I also used a Clay-Magic clay bar, followed by the Meguire's polish (from their 3-step system), then just one coat of the Pinnacle Souveran.

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

I use Blackfire on my black sedan. It gets rid of the swirls (for awhile anyway), is relatively easy to apply and last a good six weeks or more.

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

Thank you for your replies. I'm going to try to put on a coat of the Pinnacle today if I have the time; I'll post up my results. I of course, invite others to post up their experiences with the Pinnacle Liquid Souveran and Meguiars NXT. Thanks.

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(basically Sport Package w/o stiffer suspension), Darkest Tint (this is FL afterall), Z Tube, K&N Filter<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by bsgoren on 06/02/04 04:56 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

Check out www.griotsgarage.com. Excellent products!

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

To get best results, suggest polishing with Klasse first. I use Klasse-Souveran combo on my red coupe (imo best combo, esp for black/red cars). This gives you the touted "perfect shine" ... providing exceptional durability/shine/protection from hybrid of synthetic polymers and natural caranuba. Here's a kit.
http://www.properautocare.com/klaskit.html

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

I just re-applied Klasse this weekend, and topped it off with Meguiars Deep Crystal Caranauba Step-#3 this weekend. Results were good enough for me, I just didn't feel like making another special online order for a wax glaze.

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

Thanks again for the replies, guys. I've heard the Klasse/Pinnacle Liq. Souveran does an awesome job and I like the Griot's Garage products, but I tried this for now.

Ok...so I just applied 1 coat of the Pinnacle Liquid Souveran carnuba wax over the Meguiars NXT, and WOW...it defintely shows a better mirror finish than the Meguiars NXT. I know that any good carnuba wax will do that, and the polymer synthetic waxes are great too, but I have to say that I am impressed with the Pinnacle. So far, IMO, it's worth the extra $10 ($24.95) over the Meguiars NXT...the Pinnacle Liquid Souveran carnuba wax seems to be an excellent choice for black.

Now, I know I should have used Dawn dish det. or a pre-wax prep to strip the old waxes, but I just don't have the time to spend all day on a multi-step process (hence, my aversion to Zaino and some other top products ;-). So while just washing my car and applying a coat of the Pinnacle Liq. Souveran over the Meguiars NXT isn't the best solution, I have to say that it looks great. It even got out most of my swirl marks and water spots. I've attached a few pics below this post (the next 3 posts)...

I'll see how it holds up over the next few weeks, and I'll post an update. Thanks again for everyones assistance

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

Picture (in the garage) after applying the Pinnacle Liquid Souveran carnuba wax above my standard side view picture...

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(basically Sport Package w/o stiffer suspension), Darkest Tint (this is FL afterall), Z Tube, K&N Filter<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by bsgoren on 06/02/04 09:14 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

Another picture (in the garage) after applying the Pinnacle Liquid Souveran carnuba wax above my standard side view picture...

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

One last picture (in the garage) after applying the Pinnacle Liquid Souveran carnuba wax above my standard side view picture (sorry for the 3 posts, but I don't know how to attach more than 1 picture at a time -- if possible, someone let me know how -- thx)...

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

Car looks awesome. FYI...applying Klasse replaces/strips old polish and wax and enhances shine of Souveran wax.

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

Maybe I'll try the Klasse/Pinnacle Souveran combo next time. For now, I'm tired after just a wash and wax, but the 94 degrees/60% RH Florida heat may have something to do with it too ;-) So far, I'm very satisfied with the outcome; it seems like the Pinancle Liquid Souveran carnuba wax works well for black cars. Thanks.

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

looks sweet !

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Re: Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Carnuba vs. Meguiars NXT

where do you get this pinnacle stuff?

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