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Old 08-03-2009, 02:02 AM
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all bias's aside. the 6mt with a good driver should walk a 5AT any day of the week. the 5AT would pull harder in first and second but would lose in 3rd because 3rd is the strongest gear for the 6mt. Ive done plenty of runs with my 5AT vs 6MT and its really a drivers race (for the 6mt ppl of course).
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Shouldn't matter. I've never lost to a 6MT G35, EVER...
+1 same here
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Old 08-03-2009, 02:20 AM
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The rear-wheel drive G35 coupe is powered by an advanced, 280-horsepower* V6 engine mated to a 5-speed automatic transmission with manual shift mode and Downshift Rev Matching. The G35 coupe is also available with 6-speed manual transmission delivering 298 horsepower.
taken from http://www.infinitihelp.com/models/2006/g35_coupe/


im telling you, theres no way an automatic should beat a manual with a good driver and comparable mods.
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Old 08-03-2009, 02:34 AM
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Not sure what the time was for that run, but we were both pulling 9.3-9.7's on that side (sh!tty side, no track prep, slippery launch pad) with 2.3-2.4 60ft's while hot lapping and were most likely heat soaked. I was spun the beginning of 2nd gear on some runs. That's how sh!tty it was.

We were doing about 5-10 runs back to back.

On the other track (cooler temps, better prepped track, after cool down) I pulled a 2.101 60ft, 9.1, launching around 2500 rpm's. Equals out to about an estimated 14.2 on a 1/4 mile which sounds about right.
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im telling you, theres no way an automatic should beat a manual with a good driver and comparable mods.
^^^Wow, you're a newb. None of that crap means anything.

Any way you cut it, a comparable 5AT vs. a 6MT would be a pure driver's race. The power and transmission differences are way to close. Frankly, very few drivers can shift as quickly as the 5AT does in manual mode, so with all things being equal, added to the fact that this is an 1/8 mile, there's no way a 5AT guy should lose to a 6MT guy.
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you sure about that one? With VDC off, i can hold the brake and rev to redline no problem....

and yeah it doesnt go to redline, but it shifts RIGHT before redline...
reving to redline for a launch? YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG!!!!

Also your 20" wheels are killing you performance wise...
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Here's the other video's in case you guys missed it.



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He hasn't lost to a 6MT because he has a snail under the hood. Without it, story would be much different
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I'd have to see reaction times and 60 foots to really make the call. Also, that hot air intake and heavy 19" rims are doing that 5AT no favors what so ever.

There is not a huge difference in the 1/4 mile performance of 6MT and 5AT G or Z. It's about .1 to .2 seconds in favor of the 6MT assuming the 6MT driver knows how to drive and the 5AT driver understands the correct way to launch and shift the 5AT. I've never lost to a 6MT G or Z at my strip, but I'm certain I'd be quicker in a 6MT that my 5AT. For reference, my 5AT sedan did a low 14.3@98mph with a 2.15 60' with a Z-tube. That's in line, if not better, than most every stock 6MT that's posted their runs on this site.
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there are vid of AT beating comparably modded MT too... in fact one race happened to be AT sedan vs MT coupe but also AT sedan vs AT sedan... (all faster than the ETs in this vid btw)...

For those that keep squawking about AT cant beat MT... I've managed many, many times (in fact, all but one time). And yes it was before cams & headers… after cams & headers I’ve beaten G37s and 07+ sedans… so you can stop your forum racing and assumptions.
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longer driveshaft then coupe and z, i think the z and coupe have c/f driveshafts aswell where sedans do not ..plus overall its a longer distance from the motor to the rearend ..
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:57 PM
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^^^ wheres your 370Z fawker... you could probably beat me with that ~
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reving to redline for a launch? YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG!!!!

Also your 20" wheels are killing you performance wise...
i never said anything about launching. I spin my tires if i launch at anything over 3700
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:01 AM
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M mode at the track is wack jack pack zack
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if the cars are evenly matched - 6mt is faster, 5at is more consistent, sedan is faster. all this has already been debated.
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