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Old 07-18-2008, 12:32 PM
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For Rage fans, One Day As A Lion

Zach de la Rocha and Jon Theodore (drummer from Mars Volta) form a band called One Day As A Lion are realeasing an ep (which is only 5 tracks) on July 22nd. Wicked beats and it jams. here is a link to their site http://www.onedayasalion.org/ and can listen to a song.

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Old 07-18-2008, 12:41 PM
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nice !! i love rage against the machine !!
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Wow...someone was actually willing to work with Zach?

It ain't Rage without Morello. His style as well as Zach's voice and angry persona were equal parts of RATM.

I heard a rumor that they were possibly getting back together, with Audioslave disbanding and then RATM getting together immediately to play Coachella?
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Old 07-18-2008, 06:42 PM
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Wow...someone was actually willing to work with Zach?

It ain't Rage without Morello. His style as well as Zach's voice and angry persona were equal parts of RATM.

I heard a rumor that they were possibly getting back together, with Audioslave disbanding and then RATM getting together immediately to play Coachella?

? a lot of people have worked with him! he's more about passing a message than making a buck unlike most of other bands or groups.
i know it's not rage but it does sound good. this is just an ep so hopefully more to come.
well RATM is back and touring. i seen them in Coachella and Voodoo fest but no other tour dates after next month. Im guessing they are taking a break and a chance of Zach and Jon making a small tour. Hopefully RATM will start writing some music and take the power back! YOUR ANGER IS A GIFT!

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After RATM split, Zach had a solo album in the works...for a long time. It was rumored that he was really difficult to work with and a lot of producers either wouldn't deal with him or just stopped working on the album. Apparently he's a real prick, which is why he and Morello didn't get along.
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After RATM split, Zach had a solo album in the works...for a long time. It was rumored that he was really difficult to work with and a lot of producers either wouldn't deal with him or just stopped working on the album. Apparently he's a real prick, which is why he and Morello didn't get along.

of course he's not going to get along with producers because he's against what most of them are all about.......greed and just trying to make a $ off of them. apparently you dont know what Rage is about or missed their message.
nobody knows why rage broke up, they never really said. so dont start accusing people of what they are not.

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It ain't Rage without Morello. His style as well as Zach's voice and angry persona were equal parts of RATM.


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It ain't Rage without Morello.

No its not but I'll take it...that song sounded really good but I can only hope that RAGE will get the itch to make a new LP after playing a few of these festivals...The world needs some new RAGE
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of course he's not going to get along with producers because he's against what most of them are all about.......greed and just trying to make a $ off of them. apparently you dont know what Rage is about or missed their message.
nobody knows why rage broke up, they never really said. so dont start accusing people of what they are not.

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LOL...come on man. I was anti-establishment probably while you were still watching cartoons. I do understand what they are about. A lot of their songs were anthems for me in my youth. In my teens and 20s, my favorite bands to listen to was Rage, Pantera, and Tool. Believe me, I get it.

What you are missing is that if Zach has a message to get out, and if he has to deal with a producer to get that message out, doesn't it make sense to just eat a dick for the sake of the greater good? You can't fight everyone. That's a losing battle.

Again, I stated that it was "rumored" about the breakup and I quantified it as such. Do you find it entirely unbelievable? Is there something you know about the band that I don't? Not being an ***...that's just what was discussed in the past.
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No its not but I'll take it...that song sounded really good but I can only hope that RAGE will get the itch to make a new LP after playing a few of these festivals...The world needs some new RAGE

Yep...I dig it. But it's still missing that Morello flair. Personally, I hope that they do indeed get back together. One of the best shows that I had ever seen was when they played an intimate show at the El Rey Theater in Hollywood for the Battle of LA release. There were about 600 people at the show and I was lucky enough to happen across a couple of tickets. It was one of the most AMAZING shows I have ever seen.
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LOL...come on man. I was anti-establishment probably while you were still watching cartoons. I do understand what they are about. A lot of their songs were anthems for me in my youth. In my teens and 20s, my favorite bands to listen to was Rage, Pantera, and Tool. Believe me, I get it.

What you are missing is that if Zach has a message to get out, and if he has to deal with a producer to get that message out, doesn't it make sense to just eat a dick for the sake of the greater good? You can't fight everyone. That's a losing battle.

Again, I stated that it was "rumored" about the breakup and I quantified it as such. Do you find it entirely unbelievable? Is there something you know about the band that I don't? Not being an ***...that's just what was discussed in the past.

lol...i love it how you think you are older than everybody else. good for you! so that makes you about 50 then?

i guess you really dont know what they are about if you want him to "just eat a dick". listen to "settle for nothing" or read the lyrics!

when talking politics which they did much of then yes it's believable but most of the band believed in the same thing. "Apparently he's a real prick, which is why he and Morello didn't get along"....you. dont be a b*tch and start believing "rumors" like everybody else then! I cant say Zach is a prick since i really dont know him but for someone to go to the slums of Mexico (Chiapas) to help and stay with them then he's far from a prick!

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lol...i love it how you think you are older than everybody else. good for you! so that makes you about 50 then?
I think you miss the point I was trying to make. I am young enough to still understand what it's about. Yet I am old enough now to understand the establishment for what it is, and not merely express outrage at something that I can't control. I am not out of touch.

When I was what I consider young, and by young I do not mean a chronological age, but a different stage of life, I was more angry than you think you are. Sure to you, those are just words, therefore you cannot truly understand what were the depths of my anger.

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i guess you really dont know what they are about if you want him to "just eat a dick". listen to "settle for nothing" or read the lyrics!
Again, with age comes wisdom and you will begin to understand that you cannot fight every battle. If has something that is truly profound and deserves to be expressed and heard by all, "eating a dick" is a small price to pay for getting this important message across, wouldn't you think? It's not selling out exactly, but more of a compromise. Get used to it, it's a way of life. When you are young, you may believe yourself to be uncompromising and willing to embrace your beliefs at all cost, but believe me, wisdom tempers that mentality. And with the wisdom comes the realization that all that angst doesn't do anything for you. For Zach, he has the ways and means to get his message across, whereas people like you and I do not.

Your outrage is nothing new. You are not the first to feel the way you do. It has been happening to society's youth for the last 50 years. If you are so outraged, do something about it. Do you not consider it hypocritical to try and express this outrage and support Zach's efforts merely through your perceived anger? Sell your G, go down there and do something about it. Actions defintely speak louder than words.

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when talking politics which they did much of then yes it's believable but most of the band believed in the same thing. "Apparently he's a real prick, which is why he and Morello didn't get along"....you. dont be a b*tch and start believing "rumors" like everybody else then! I cant say Zach is a prick since i really dont know him but for someone to go to the slums of Mexico (Chiapas) to help and stay with them then he's far from a prick!

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Regardless of what his humanitarian efforts are, and how much be believes in his causes, which by the way I concur with, it still does not change the fact that if you are the one that the rest of the band cannot deal with, and producers cannot deal with and his long awaited solo album which appears to have been canned in light of this new project, then guess what? It's not everyone else...it's you.

I do not mock at all, as I stated, I am a HUGE fan of RATM. Always have been, probably always will be. I'll be 50 years old and I'll still be cranking the sh1t out of my car.

Do you get what I am saying?
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:33 PM
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i get what you are saying but sorry man. im going to be 30 next month and i'll never "eat a dick" and bow down to what i dont believe.
I guess it may be a little easier for me to say since i have a good 9-5 job and own a business. I send money to my relatives in mexico every month and try to go when i can. i cant help everybody in mexico ofcourse and i do have family here that needs me as well. So i dont need to sell my g to help them out. I do attend marches locally when it's issues i dont agree on. So yes, i do think im doing my part and sometimes should be doing more. im never going to give up on what i believe even though it means my life and i'll pass that on. "it has to start somewhere it has to start sometime, what better place than here, what better time than now"

btw, for people trying to buy the cd, price match best buys web price for discount!

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i get what you are saying but sorry man. im going to be 30 next month and i'll never "eat a dick" and bow down to what i dont believe.
I guess it may be a little easier for me to say since i have a good 9-5 job and own a business. I send money to my relatives in mexico every month and try to go when i can. i cant help everybody in mexico ofcourse and i do have family here that needs me as well. So i dont need to sell my g to help them out. I do attend marches locally when it's issues i dont agree on. So yes, i do think im doing my part and sometimes should be doing more. im never going to give up on what i believe even though it means my life and i'll pass that on. "it has to start somewhere it has to start sometime, what better place than here, what better time than now"

btw, for people trying to buy the cd, price match best buys web price for discount!

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Good for you man. I do my part as well, in my own way. I try to make a difference in the lives of misguided youth, drawing on my experiences and wisdom. If more people did that, the world would indeed be a better place.

Let me requantify the statement "eat a dick" By that, I mean sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut for the purposes of actually getting heard. You cannot fight and win every single battle. Better to choose them wisely and win more often than to try to fight them all and lose more than you need to.

Anger is a gift.

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