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08-20-2008, 06:16 PM
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Das Boot or U571 - suitable for a mature 10-year-old??
My son's a big history buff, especially WW2. He can quote dates, times, strength, results of most of the major battles and can differentiate between marks of the same airplane. Lately he's keen on naval operations (I'll have to take him out to meet GW).
Anyhoo, we have potential for a Guys Movie Night while his little sis is at an evening party. Wondering if Das Boot or perhaps U571 would be too graphic etc.? He owns Midway, Battle of Britain, Tora Tora Tora etc., but no way I'd let him watch something like Saving Private Ryan or Platoon. Those who have seen these flicks, please chime in.
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08-20-2008, 06:27 PM
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i saw "Das Boot" a while back and from what i can recall, it was pretty PG. you really get a sense of being stuck in those close quarters when you watch the movie. i can't remember anything that would be offensive for a 10 yr. old.
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08-20-2008, 06:34 PM
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I don't remember much about Das Boot but I would say that U571 might be a little heavy for a 10 year old. Honestly though, it depends on how sensitive he is to things. Tora Tora Tora isn't all that graphic and is more "historical" in it's approach. U571 is very *there* in a lot of the scenes kind of like Pearl Harbor was. It's not so much graphic exactly but very emotionally connecting if that makes sense. I'd try to pick it up and watch it before I would let him watch it if I were you.
Hopefully someone else can chime in about Das Boot 
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08-21-2008, 03:25 PM
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My Father took me to see Platoon and Jacob's Ladder in the same day. I was 9  He was a Helicopter pilot in Vietnam.
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08-21-2008, 03:53 PM
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Wayne,
Das Boot is a little more raw, with some language here and there. Not sure what your guy is used to in movies. If he can handle an "F" bomb or two, nothing else in the movie should hurt him. This is assuming he's OK with some suspense and violence (nothing gratuitous). He's probably experienced all that watching you work on your car in the driveway.  U-571 is slicker, more polished, more Hollywood. The storyline, pace and action would would probably hold his interest more than Das Boot. Both are good movies. Don't be a cheap bastage, rent them both and make an evening of it.  Let us know which one he liked better.
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08-21-2008, 04:15 PM
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I think U-571 has more of a story line that would hold his attention and is based on fact.
Das Boot was IMO about the mind set and actions of men at war, that had reservations about what they were doing. Clearly a much better movie. I would go with Das Boot, a German movie probably more period correct and told from a side rarely heard from.
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08-21-2008, 04:19 PM
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Well having watched Wil Wheaton suggest to Keifer Sutherland "Why don't you go fvck your mother some more" he is at least familiar with the F-word even if he's not yet sure what it means.  So that's probably okay. If the subject matter is appealing to him, he can watch or do something for HOURS. Part of my reasoning for 'letting' him watch stuff like this is to ensure he knows the horror of war, not just the cool stuff. We've been reading a number of first-hand accounts of soldiers, airmen, sailors of WW1 and 2 and he's done fine with those. I have to say, he is getting it. And while I AM a cheap bastage, the truth is I don't think I can stay awake for both! Maybe save one or the other for the weekend sometime. Thanks for the feedback, Craig and Deane, I appreciate it.
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08-21-2008, 04:21 PM
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Interesting thing about that is he sees these conflicts from the German and Japanese side (neither is his heritage), that's why I thought he'd really like DB and see and feel those reservations.
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08-21-2008, 04:30 PM
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This would explain why your avatar is always depicting your obsession with violence. 
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08-21-2008, 04:32 PM
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What's interesting about Das Boot is way you're isolated on the boat the whole time. You don't really see their opposition, no real opportunity to take sides. After a little while, you just see them as a bunch of guys in a boat in a whole lotta trouble. You can forget about the uniforms and the accents and think about the men, which I suppose is as it should be.
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08-21-2008, 04:35 PM
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It explains a lot.
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08-21-2008, 05:12 PM
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Steady on there old chap... Not sure you can suggest U-571 is based on fact.. Very loosely if anything... That is the trouble when Hollywood takes liberties in these films. many people see them as fact, especially when it says 'based on a true story' on the screen. In actual fact "Jonathan Mostow's 2000 film U-571 describes a fictional patrol by American submariners who have hijacked a German submarine to obtain an Enigma machine. The machine used in the film was an authentic Enigma obtained from a collector. The historical liberties taken are large, for the Polish breaks into Enigma (beginning in December 1932) did not require a captured machine, the Royal Navy captured several Enigmas or parts before the U.S. entered the war, and the U.S. capture of a U-boat occurred only days before D-Day in 1944. The film caused considerable protests when it was released in Britain, since it effectively transferred the exploits of the real life HMS Bulldog to a fictional American boat." Watch DB with your son... One of the finest war films ever made. U-571 is just Hollywood being Hollywood. If your son is such a war buff he may want realism, not explosions, and hatches bouncing off peoples heads. PS... He may enjoy a film called "Sink the Bismarck", which is about the hunt for Germany's biggest battleship, as well as a film called "Battle of River Plate", which is excellent. "The Cruel Sea" is also one of my favourites.
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Last edited by Blue Meanie : 08-21-2008 at 05:16 PM. Reason: Because badgers ate my sandwich
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08-21-2008, 05:16 PM
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Good call Blue.
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