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08-07-2008, 01:22 AM
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new trim V3 Vortech S/C: no oil tapping??
So I am having issue with "blow by" and getting oil backed up in my IC piping after about 6 months of driving the car under normal conditions. I have had this issue for the last 3 years. So every so often I take my car into the shop and have the seal on the S/C replaced and piping cleaned up. Now I heard that Vortech has a new trim level V3 that does not require tapping and running oil lines. It is internally lubricated by placing the oil inside the s/c unit itself and it has its own drain line and plug and change when needed. Does anyone know of this or heard of anything about this? Any info would be appriciated. Thanks!
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08-07-2008, 01:50 AM
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No...but isn't oil blow by solved with an oil catch can...not self contained oil supercharger?
Basically you wouldn't have to tap oil feed lines for the V-3 is what it sounds like.
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08-07-2008, 01:55 AM
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if you have blow by you have a bad blower my friend.
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08-07-2008, 01:56 AM
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and that would be called a centrifugal supercharger, aka procharger, aka POS.
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08-07-2008, 12:19 PM
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The vortech is a centrifugal supercharger too. Both Vortech and procharger are centrifugal designs. The Stillen supercharger is a roots type that sits directly on the intake manifold. The Procharger simply uses special oil that is self contained so you don't have to install oil feed lines. Sounds like Vortech is adding that capability to their models.
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08-07-2008, 12:33 PM
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That would be a nice addition to there line up, a self contained unit
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08-07-2008, 01:00 PM
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Why does everyone calling a procharger a POS. It works great on my car and have heard just as much bad **** about vortech SC. Maybe the guys that don't like procharger just don't know how to set their f'in cars up. Just very offensive for people to down stuff you spend alot of money on with no basis
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08-08-2008, 12:42 AM
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i have a catch can and still get blow by. im looking to get a new trim level blower. (out of warranty) i have had my blower for prob the longest on here almost 4 years.
Self contained would be great. And i have heard nothing but bad things about the procharger. No self experience but all from word of mouth.
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08-08-2008, 10:09 AM
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Blown motors blah blah blah = bad tune or cheap setup user error
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08-08-2008, 12:59 PM
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the self contained oil isn't the best for high heat or tracking the car. A vortech rep came on my350z a few months ago commenting on the V3 blower and mentioned it's not as good for tracking. It's mainly just for a convenience and he'd only use it on a street car
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08-08-2008, 01:49 PM
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yes and no. It usually means that the piston rings are wearing out. However, you will almost always have blowby with the vortech. The only way to help solve the problem is really by getting a catch can, but this won't help that much.
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08-09-2008, 09:20 PM
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thanks for the info guys. Sentry thank you for your info, as always I respect what you post. My car is only a street car and I never track it with, expecially with my huge 20s and crazy fitment. Do you suggest the v3 for my street car? any major pro and cons other than the easy of self containment?
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08-15-2008, 08:21 AM
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how many miles have you had yours for? didn't you buy your procharger setup from someone who blew THEIR motor? there's a reason why most of the vq tend to go towards the vortech as opposed to the procharger and I think that reason is almost all the time the reliability issue.
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10-04-2008, 01:53 PM
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Im thinking of going with the V3 as well. Seeing as I'll never track the car, only street use, I think this is the package for me. I am probably going to go with the tuner kit so I can upgrade the EMS and fuel accessories. Thanks civic4982 for your help. I may be asking for more!!
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10-04-2008, 02:05 PM
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Ok. I think there's some confusion here when you said "blow by". You're saying that the oil running through the SC is leaking by somewhere and making into the intake airflow and thus putting oil all inside of the intercooler? And not the conventional "blow by" of oil making its way into the combustion chamber of the engine?
Sounds like there's a loose tolerance somewhere in the turbine assembly which might cause excessive wear on the seals that's supposed to contain the oil in the SC. You said you've had it for 4 years? Maybe the turbine bearings are getting worn and allowing excessive play and wearing out the seals. The turbine does spin upwards of 40,000rpms which would put a lot of wear and tear. Maybe that's why we don't see many centrifugal SCs on production cars as factory installs. I would think getting the self-contained lube SC would fix the problem, but would you start experiencing the same issue 4 years later? I dunno.
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