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Old 08-23-2008, 01:51 AM
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What am I missing?

Ok here it goes. I'm looking to get an APS single turbo kit.
http://www.importpartspro.com/apssitukitni.html <--- ~$4200

Now, I'm looking to get a better tunable engine management system but I'm not really sure what I should be looking at. I want something which will allow for enough adjustment to prevent me from wrecking my motor with a bad/inconsistant tune. I don't really want to spend $2k+ on a Fcon for a $4000 turbo kit so I'm looking for suggestions in this department.

I've also planned to budget about ~$800 for gauges

I'm going to get the SGP valve body upgrade as well as the tranny cooler since I have a 5 A/T. $$ XXX

I already have HKS exhaust, 5/16 copper isothermal spacer, crawford high flow cats. (I could switch out the cats for something else if it would make a huge difference but I'd rather not run test pipes due to federal offense status of removing thses and how noticble it is)

My question is what am I missing parts wise? I'm well aware that a good install and tune will cost me a few thousand dollars when all is said and done but in terms of parts which I will need to buy is there anything I should be looking for? My goals are a 350 whp daily driver for under 10k (under 8k would be nice but whatever). I'd rather not get a supercharger and I'd like to sick to getting a turbo. I'd be especially interested if anyone personally has this kit on their car or if a shop has installed this kit for their customer and has experience with it.

My car is a 2004 coupe 5 A/T with ~ 70k miles on it.
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Old 08-23-2008, 04:29 AM
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Does the kit you're getting comes with Injectors, Fuel Pump etc?? If so get it, or even then I suggest bigger injectors, a fuel return system if you have money or a fmu. Water/Meth Injection is an option too, but these are all just options that I would get in the first place in my opinion knowing myself and what I would do down the road.

You Need Gauges..(Boost..Air/Fuel..etc.)...Boost Controller....and as for Engine management, if you're looking for something good with a low budget I suggest the Turbo XS Utec, or personally HKS Fcon IS (Of course you need an authorized tuner), I'm running the Vpro for my supercharger kit and I'm loving it, makes the car run twices better then when I had my Utec in my opinion. Good luck buddy
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Does the kit you're getting comes with Injectors, Fuel Pump etc?? If so get it, or even then I suggest bigger injectors, a fuel return system if you have money or a fmu. Water/Meth Injection is an option too, but these are all just options that I would get in the first place in my opinion knowing myself and what I would do down the road.

You Need Gauges..(Boost..Air/Fuel..etc.)...Boost Controller....and as for Engine management, if you're looking for something good with a low budget I suggest the Turbo XS Utec, or personally HKS Fcon IS (Of course you need an authorized tuner), I'm running the Vpro for my supercharger kit and I'm loving it, makes the car run twices better then when I had my Utec in my opinion. Good luck buddy

The kit comes with 550cc injectors and a new fuel pump as part of the kit.

I thought about getting water/meth injection as well but won't I run out pretty often if it is a daily driver?

Here is some of the info about the fuel system for the kit.
http://www.airpowersystems.com/350z/fuel/fuel.htm
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you are missing your MIND.

single turbos ftl....
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Who is doing the install for you? The APS is a cost effective solution to power. If you could be without your car for a while you could always have the JWT TT kit installed or the Power Labs ST kit installed. I know the JWT must be installed by a licensed installer, not sure about the PL TT kit. I'll help you install it if you plan on doing it yourself. It would be easier if you pull the engine.

Osiris is good for FI applications, call them and tell them your plans. Look into the JWT kit, it's a little more expensive, but for a daily driver you can't beat it. Plenty of torque below 3k rpm's and very reliable. I called JWT and the closest authorized dealer is in Houston.
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Pretty sure the HKS will need to be modified to work with the APS ST. Your Crawford hiflos are not going to bolt up since the APS is low mounted.

Hit up drsifu1 he's a mod here and has had the APS for awhile. I'm sure he'll give you his opinion of the kit.
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you are missing your MIND.

single turbos ftl....

Why do you say that? They're more efficient than superchargers and are lower cost, they're also lower cost than twins and they place less stress on your engine under normal driving conditions due to not being in boost 24/7. In terms of performace you may take a minor hit but for my goal of 350 hp it will be just fine.


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Who is doing the install for you? The APS is a cost effective solution to power. If you could be without your car for a while you could always have the JWT TT kit installed or the Power Labs ST kit installed. I know the JWT must be installed by a licensed installer, not sure about the PL TT kit. I'll help you install it if you plan on doing it yourself. It would be easier if you pull the engine.

Osiris is good for FI applications, call them and tell them your plans. Look into the JWT kit, it's a little more expensive, but for a daily driver you can't beat it. Plenty of torque below 3k rpm's and very reliable. I called JWT and the closest authorized dealer is in Houston.
Yeah, I've got lots of friends in San Antonio, Dallas etc. I'm going to see if I can crash there for a week while my car is in a shop in Texas, we'll see. I'm going to have it installed and tuned by a shop rather than do it myself simply because I'd like somone that has done it before to do it

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Pretty sure the HKS will need to be modified to work with the APS ST. Your Crawford hiflos are not going to bolt up since the APS is low mounted.

Hit up drsifu1 he's a mod here and has had the APS for awhile. I'm sure he'll give you his opinion of the kit.
Sweet, thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of that since in the details it says "comes with everything you need to install" I figured I'd be able to use my cats and exhaust withuout modification but we'll see what I have to do. I'll hit up drsifu1 and see how his worked out.
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The out of the box kit is based on stock exhaust if I remember right. So technically yeah is it a full solution unless you have a dual like you have.

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The out of the box kit is based on stock exhaust if I remember right. So technically yeah is it a full solution unless you have a dual like you have.

GL.
I think you are right and it is based on the stock system, however, on their site they have dyno graphs with the APS true dual exhaust posted up though so I know it is at least possible to use a dual exhaust. I msged a few people that have the APS ST kit on their G and asked for info, we'll see what I get.
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single turbos ftl....
lol. TT > ST > SC.
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