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Old 07-26-2007, 02:56 PM
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very nice info..
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can anyone tell me a good car to learn MT on?

I've never driven MT in my life and I hear the more hp the car has the harder it is to learn.
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Why would sedans have greater drivetrain loss?
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longer driveshaft then coupe and z, i think the z and coupe have c/f driveshafts aswell where sedans do not ..plus overall its a longer distance from the motor to the rearend ..
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wow...very good info indeed this explains a lot for me as i have just started to drive my 6mt G, its only been my 2nd day lol. if you have any more info please pm me or post it up here thanks, this is really helpful, my eyes went O_O when i saw the title

btw..can anyone tell me the rpm levels in which to shift and down shift?
does that sound extremely noob and stupid? lol but like what chili explained about downshifting, how we blip it to 4.5k to go 4th, what about the rest of the gears? thanks

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every gear is different as the gears go up the rpm difference decreases. If i even knew the exact rpm difference for each gear, it will not make any difference when u are trying to downshift because it takes time and practice. Work on smooth upshifting and downshifting will come autmatically within months since now u know the concept already.
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longer driveshaft then coupe and z, i think the z and coupe have c/f driveshafts aswell where sedans do not ..plus overall its a longer distance from the motor to the rearend ..
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... It is also physically impossible, unless you wanna trash your transmission, to downshift into 1st. If youre going 15mph in 2nd, the car will physically not allow you to enter 1st, the gate will be closed, and unless you force it (causing damage), you will not go in 1st. The gate for 1st is only open around 2-3mph. ...
there is no magical gate... if u double-clutch with a blip it will slip into gear every time.

for winter drivers.. u may find that starting in 2nd will yield u better traction on heavy snow. one of the great benefits of having a manual car.
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wow...very good info indeed this explains a lot for me as i have just started to drive my 6mt G, its only been my 2nd day lol. if you have any more info please pm me or post it up here thanks, this is really helpful, my eyes went O_O when i saw the title

LMFAO same here i was like exactly what i've searched for for so long!
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there is no magical gate... if u double-clutch with a blip it will slip into gear every time.

for winter drivers.. u may find that starting in 2nd will yield u better traction on heavy snow. one of the great benefits of having a manual car.
This is true, but in reality, there isnt much need to HAVE to go into 1st, unless u are running from the popo or something.

Also, a good tip I can give to those newer drivers, is to learn how to smoothly shift, with just clutch action. If you can learn how to shift smoothly with barely any throttle input, you will achieve faster shifting skills, quicker. The thing with this transmission though, if there is no throttle input, it can get clanky and loud. To those just learning, go out in your cars and try it(empty parking lot of course). Take off in 1st, shift into 2nd, but when you shift, dont equalize with the gas, just simply let the clutch up nice and smoothly. If you do it correctly, it should be a smooth transition, but the clutch will be clanky. Now if you do the same, but with 25% throttle, you will notice the shafts match up perfectly, and there will be no clutch music.

For downshifts, its all about timing. Do not try and memorize all the different RPM levels to all the gears at all the speeds. Thats dumb. You must learn by timing. While youre cruising at on highway like roads, play around and learn, its the only way you CAN learn. If youre cruising in 4th at 45, practice rev-matching into 3rd, then back into 4th, then back into 3rd, and so on...Do it with all the gears. Once you practice with all gears, going from 5th to 3rd, from 6th to 4th, it will be like tying your shoes man... Also, dont skip more than 2 gears.

Also, to popular belief, they say its "bad" to skip gears on upshift.... Says who? If properly matched, you can go from 1st to 4th if you really feel like it.

For instance, you launch off in 1st, redlining the gear...that puts you at 36MPH. If lets say you see the popo and dont want to chirp the gear, simply put it in 4th, but leave the clutch pushed in, until the revs fall from 7100 (I have an 06) to about 2K. Once the needle is about to reach the 2K, you let the clutch out smoothly. If you match it up perfectly, it will be a smooth shift. Now on the other hand, if you WERE to redline 1st gear all the way at 7100rpms, and then dumped it into 4th and let the clutch out while the revs were spiked high, you can honestly hear your own clutch just crying for help.
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good write up for the noobs..lol
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Chili, you should condense all of your posts on this thread into one post, and get this thing stickied. Nice write-up!
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lol help me here.. if i go over 2500rpms and drop the clutch i spin like a mofo.. do u have special decoder ring on and use the schwarts while launching or something. if so where can i get this?
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thanks chili one more question, what do u recommend doing for parking? i tried last night, and i thikn i got half of it down. my dad was saying to use only the clutch to control the speed of the car (brake also). i guess i kind of know how to do it already..but jsut asking what you (or anyone else for that matter) have to say about it since you're so good at explaining these things..lol
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