Cause for the dreaded P0011/P0021 codes that everyone is curious about
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Ok Infinitidude, I have since flushed the oil. I have seen no improvement. I'm not sure how the intake cam sprockets work, like I understand they work off of oil pressure supplied by the solenoids. But do they get gunked up beyond repair? I'm just wondering since I have replaced and done everything suggested and told, short of actually replacing the cam sprockets, would that fix the problem of over advanced cams? Thank you for all your help throughout the forum.
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You never cease to amaze me. Excellent description. But how would I go about turning the sprocket from the cam cap cover. I've taken mine off and I saw a limited amount of room to work. Also when I did go to a dealer the tech told me that my cams were over advanced and locked. But the cams weren't at the same angle one was 2 or 3 degrees more than the other, I don't know if that means anything though haha. And how sure are you that this is the problem?
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treacherous (09-01-2014)
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Thanks infinitidude for starting this thread and all the posters for the useful info. I got a new to me 07 G35 6 speed about a month ago and had both of these codes. I tried the Lucas oil thickening method that another member had success with but the check engine light kept coming on shortly after I reset every time.
I also had the low engine oil pressure light flicker, which I attribute to low pressure + Idle problems. I think the dealer tried resetting the engine light by unplugging the battery and it lost its idle. So I decided to clean the throttle bodies (filthy…) and perform an idle relearn, car felt better but I shortly took it in for a gasket repair in Toronto at an independent shop after the dealer wanted 17 hours for the job…
Gaskets were in terrible shape. Found a big chunk of gasket in the oilpan too. Oil pressure was 5 psi at idle and 15 at 2000rpm. Really poor readings obviously. After the gasket repair we got 24PSI and idle and 56 PSI at 2000 rpm, so in much better shape !!! Engine got a bit quieter as well.
So if you are in the GTA area (I am not but decided the drive was worth it after chatting with the shop about this issue, which they were familiar with), you can get in touch with Whitehead Performance. Ask for Mike and he will be familiar with what needs to be done for the repair.
Now finally the pictures:
Idle before
2000 rpm before
Misc blown gasket pics
Other pics
Idle after
2000 rpm after
I also had the low engine oil pressure light flicker, which I attribute to low pressure + Idle problems. I think the dealer tried resetting the engine light by unplugging the battery and it lost its idle. So I decided to clean the throttle bodies (filthy…) and perform an idle relearn, car felt better but I shortly took it in for a gasket repair in Toronto at an independent shop after the dealer wanted 17 hours for the job…
Gaskets were in terrible shape. Found a big chunk of gasket in the oilpan too. Oil pressure was 5 psi at idle and 15 at 2000rpm. Really poor readings obviously. After the gasket repair we got 24PSI and idle and 56 PSI at 2000 rpm, so in much better shape !!! Engine got a bit quieter as well.
So if you are in the GTA area (I am not but decided the drive was worth it after chatting with the shop about this issue, which they were familiar with), you can get in touch with Whitehead Performance. Ask for Mike and he will be familiar with what needs to be done for the repair.
Now finally the pictures:
Idle before
2000 rpm before
Misc blown gasket pics
Other pics
Idle after
2000 rpm after
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infinitidude (09-17-2014)
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Thanks infinitidude for starting this thread and all the posters for the useful info. I got a new to me 07 G35 6 speed about a month ago and had both of these codes. I tried the Lucas oil thickening method that another member had success with but the check engine light kept coming on shortly after I reset every time.
I also had the low engine oil pressure light flicker, which I attribute to low pressure + Idle problems. I think the dealer tried resetting the engine light by unplugging the battery and it lost its idle. So I decided to clean the throttle bodies (filthy…) and perform an idle relearn, car felt better but I shortly took it in for a gasket repair in Toronto at an independent shop after the dealer wanted 17 hours for the job…
Gaskets were in terrible shape. Found a big chunk of gasket in the oilpan too. Oil pressure was 5 psi at idle and 15 at 2000rpm. Really poor readings obviously. After the gasket repair we got 24PSI and idle and 56 PSI at 2000 rpm, so in much better shape !!! Engine got a bit quieter as well.
So if you are in the GTA area (I am not but decided the drive was worth it after chatting with the shop about this issue, which they were familiar with), you can get in touch with Whitehead Performance. Ask for Mike and he will be familiar with what needs to be done for the repair.
Now finally the pictures:
Idle before
2000 rpm before
Misc blown gasket pics
Other pics
Idle after
2000 rpm after
I also had the low engine oil pressure light flicker, which I attribute to low pressure + Idle problems. I think the dealer tried resetting the engine light by unplugging the battery and it lost its idle. So I decided to clean the throttle bodies (filthy…) and perform an idle relearn, car felt better but I shortly took it in for a gasket repair in Toronto at an independent shop after the dealer wanted 17 hours for the job…
Gaskets were in terrible shape. Found a big chunk of gasket in the oilpan too. Oil pressure was 5 psi at idle and 15 at 2000rpm. Really poor readings obviously. After the gasket repair we got 24PSI and idle and 56 PSI at 2000 rpm, so in much better shape !!! Engine got a bit quieter as well.
So if you are in the GTA area (I am not but decided the drive was worth it after chatting with the shop about this issue, which they were familiar with), you can get in touch with Whitehead Performance. Ask for Mike and he will be familiar with what needs to be done for the repair.
Now finally the pictures:
Idle before
2000 rpm before
Misc blown gasket pics
Other pics
Idle after
2000 rpm after
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Thanks infinitidude for starting this thread and all the posters for the useful info. I got a new to me 07 G35 6 speed about a month ago and had both of these codes. I tried the Lucas oil thickening method that another member had success with but the check engine light kept coming on shortly after I reset every time.
I also had the low engine oil pressure light flicker, which I attribute to low pressure + Idle problems. I think the dealer tried resetting the engine light by unplugging the battery and it lost its idle. So I decided to clean the throttle bodies (filthy…) and perform an idle relearn, car felt better but I shortly took it in for a gasket repair in Toronto at an independent shop after the dealer wanted 17 hours for the job…
Gaskets were in terrible shape. Found a big chunk of gasket in the oilpan too. Oil pressure was 5 psi at idle and 15 at 2000rpm. Really poor readings obviously. After the gasket repair we got 24PSI and idle and 56 PSI at 2000 rpm, so in much better shape !!! Engine got a bit quieter as well.
So if you are in the GTA area (I am not but decided the drive was worth it after chatting with the shop about this issue, which they were familiar with), you can get in touch with Whitehead Performance. Ask for Mike and he will be familiar with what needs to be done for the repair.
I also had the low engine oil pressure light flicker, which I attribute to low pressure + Idle problems. I think the dealer tried resetting the engine light by unplugging the battery and it lost its idle. So I decided to clean the throttle bodies (filthy…) and perform an idle relearn, car felt better but I shortly took it in for a gasket repair in Toronto at an independent shop after the dealer wanted 17 hours for the job…
Gaskets were in terrible shape. Found a big chunk of gasket in the oilpan too. Oil pressure was 5 psi at idle and 15 at 2000rpm. Really poor readings obviously. After the gasket repair we got 24PSI and idle and 56 PSI at 2000 rpm, so in much better shape !!! Engine got a bit quieter as well.
So if you are in the GTA area (I am not but decided the drive was worth it after chatting with the shop about this issue, which they were familiar with), you can get in touch with Whitehead Performance. Ask for Mike and he will be familiar with what needs to be done for the repair.
It looks like from these pics they didn't bother to set the engine at TDC since the orange/yellow chain links don't line up with sprockets. Just painted their own witness marks on the chain & intake sprockets (& on crank sprocket also I assume) & just reassembled same way.
Do you know whether they had to remove the intake collector plenum to do the job? The factory manual says to remove it, but your gasket list does not include a new collector gasket. Maybe they reused the old one?
Also, did you consider replacing the water pump & thermostat assembly while it was open?
Can you give an idea what the total cost of the job was from the indy, parts & labor?
Thanks for the info. I've ordered all the parts from Sewell, & am about to do mine myself.
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Good eye, didn't even notice that.
Unfortunately I couldn't be around for that job so didn't see if they had to remove the intake plenum or not. I considered replacing the water pump and thermostat assembly but decided against it at this point of time. I doubt I will be keeping the car long enough to warrant the investment.
Labour was about 1200, parts were another 100 + applicable taxes. Yes, stuff is unfortunately more expensive up north here
Unfortunately I couldn't be around for that job so didn't see if they had to remove the intake plenum or not. I considered replacing the water pump and thermostat assembly but decided against it at this point of time. I doubt I will be keeping the car long enough to warrant the investment.
Labour was about 1200, parts were another 100 + applicable taxes. Yes, stuff is unfortunately more expensive up north here
Interesting, thanks for the pics.
It looks like from these pics they didn't bother to set the engine at TDC since the orange/yellow chain links don't line up with sprockets. Just painted their own witness marks on the chain & intake sprockets (& on crank sprocket also I assume) & just reassembled same way.
Do you know whether they had to remove the intake collector plenum to do the job? The factory manual says to remove it, but your gasket list does not include a new collector gasket. Maybe they reused the old one?
Also, did you consider replacing the water pump & thermostat assembly while it was open?
Can you give an idea what the total cost of the job was from the indy, parts & labor?
Thanks for the info. I've ordered all the parts from Sewell, & am about to do mine myself.
It looks like from these pics they didn't bother to set the engine at TDC since the orange/yellow chain links don't line up with sprockets. Just painted their own witness marks on the chain & intake sprockets (& on crank sprocket also I assume) & just reassembled same way.
Do you know whether they had to remove the intake collector plenum to do the job? The factory manual says to remove it, but your gasket list does not include a new collector gasket. Maybe they reused the old one?
Also, did you consider replacing the water pump & thermostat assembly while it was open?
Can you give an idea what the total cost of the job was from the indy, parts & labor?
Thanks for the info. I've ordered all the parts from Sewell, & am about to do mine myself.