Show Your Support Become A Premier Member


Activity Stream: Show All | New Threads | New Posts | New Pictures | Popular Threads | Lonely Threads | Only Vendor Threads | New Picture Comments | New Profile Comments |
Go Back   G35Driver > Tech Area - V35 > General Tech Questions
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Search

Welcome to G35Driver.com!
Welcome to G35Driver.com.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join G35Driver.com community today!


Reply
 
 
 
submit to reddit
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-19-2011, 01:42 AM
Registered User
Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Level up: 85%, 23 Points needed
Level up: 85% Level up: 85% Level up: 85%
Activity: 1.7%
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: pomona,ca
Posts: 29
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Help!! Adding oem paddle shifter to G35 coupe

Hi everyone, Im trying to add OEM peddle shifters to G35 coupe.

Since I watched a video and knew it is possible.

I checked both transmission diagrams and found that there are no differences.

I tried to wiring as below diagram, but it doesnt work.

Click the image to open in full size.

I think I need to add some modules and make it when pebble Shifter UP(Pin: 7) (or Down (Pin: 8)), and block N(Pin: 6) electricity running.

Click the image to open in full size.

Does anyone have any ideas for the module what should I use for, or different ideas for the method?

Help please~.
Attached Thumbnails
Help!! Adding oem paddle shifter to G35 coupe-untitled-3.png   Help!! Adding oem paddle shifter to G35 coupe-untitled-4.png  
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-19-2011, 01:56 AM
SDGenius's Avatar
VRH Equipped
Points: 20,393, Level: 90
Points: 20,393, Level: 90 Points: 20,393, Level: 90 Points: 20,393, Level: 90
Level up: 9%, 457 Points needed
Level up: 9% Level up: 9% Level up: 9%
Activity: 0.9%
Activity: 0.9% Activity: 0.9% Activity: 0.9%
2003 Infiniti G35
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Oside, SoCal
Posts: 12,815
Thanks: 1,707
Thanked 902 Times in 602 Posts
iTrader: (15)
it's prob easier to swap the new paddles on to the JDM Skyline v35's because paddle shifters where a factory option on those. USDM G35's didn't get 'em as an option 'till the v36's.
__________________
http://www.canibeat.com/2011/09/g35-...sefully-built/
SDGz/SDCE - 1st Gen bolted & cam'd NISMO Sedan

TeamRareJDM
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-19-2011, 02:24 AM
Registered User
Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Level up: 85%, 23 Points needed
Level up: 85% Level up: 85% Level up: 85%
Activity: 1.7%
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: pomona,ca
Posts: 29
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
As I know, there is no paddle shifter in Old model of either G35 or v35, isnt it?
the paddle shifter diagram for new G35 is the same as G37.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-19-2011, 02:36 AM
SDGenius's Avatar
VRH Equipped
Points: 20,393, Level: 90
Points: 20,393, Level: 90 Points: 20,393, Level: 90 Points: 20,393, Level: 90
Level up: 9%, 457 Points needed
Level up: 9% Level up: 9% Level up: 9%
Activity: 0.9%
Activity: 0.9% Activity: 0.9% Activity: 0.9%
2003 Infiniti G35
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Oside, SoCal
Posts: 12,815
Thanks: 1,707
Thanked 902 Times in 602 Posts
iTrader: (15)
the v35's did have an OEM paddle shift option, just not in America. the video you posted has a 300GT w/OEM paddle shifters and updated the paddles themselves to the v36 paddles. works bell makes a paddle shifter kit for use w/the OEM steering wheel too, if you're interested in that.
__________________
http://www.canibeat.com/2011/09/g35-...sefully-built/
SDGz/SDCE - 1st Gen bolted & cam'd NISMO Sedan

TeamRareJDM
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-19-2011, 03:04 AM
Registered User
Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Level up: 85%, 23 Points needed
Level up: 85% Level up: 85% Level up: 85%
Activity: 1.7%
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: pomona,ca
Posts: 29
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
I know it works bell has it, but those paddles are ugly for me.

Beside, by my analysis in the below picture (the harness will be given from Works Bell), if you know what is going on the black box, you can it by yourself.

So, does everyone have any ideas?
Attached Thumbnails
Help!! Adding oem paddle shifter to G35 coupe-worksbell008-3.jpg  

Last edited by Till; 06-19-2011 at 03:13 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-19-2011, 03:11 AM
Registered User
Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Level up: 85%, 23 Points needed
Level up: 85% Level up: 85% Level up: 85%
Activity: 1.7%
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: pomona,ca
Posts: 29
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Or the other after market paddle from Nengun, they have more simplified harness for it.
http://www.nengun.com/night-pager/column-shifter

the algorithm is the same as Works Bell using.

As you can see from the picture, they took from 4 wires from OEM wire to the plug, and then seem like just simply use 4 wires plug connect to 2 wires plug.

Since the plug is kind of big, I dont know what kind of wiring is inside of it.
Attached Thumbnails
Help!! Adding oem paddle shifter to G35 coupe-nengun-1825-00-nightpager-column_shifter.jpg.jpeg  
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-19-2011, 08:47 AM
Registered User
Points: 3,241, Level: 35
Points: 3,241, Level: 35 Points: 3,241, Level: 35 Points: 3,241, Level: 35
Level up: 28%, 109 Points needed
Level up: 28% Level up: 28% Level up: 28%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 166
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Send a message via AIM to KPierson_
You will most likely have to break the "auto" signal too. You should be able to do this with relays.

When you press the down shift button have it break the auto signal, have it break the N signal, and have it apply ground to the down input.

When you press the up shift button have it break the auto signal, have it break the N signal, and have it apply ground to the up input.

You can use two small DPDT relays - one for up, one for down.

Take the Auto signal and run in through the NC#1 contact of down relay and through NC#1 contact of up relay. This will take care of breaking this signal when either button is pushed.

Do the same thing with the N signal by using NC#2 contact on each relay

Lastly, wire the switch outputs to the respective coil (with diodes across each coil) and also wire the switch output to the respective up and down inputs.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to KPierson_ For This Useful Post:
Till (06-20-2011)
  #8  
Old 06-19-2011, 01:23 PM
Registered User
Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Level up: 85%, 23 Points needed
Level up: 85% Level up: 85% Level up: 85%
Activity: 1.7%
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: pomona,ca
Posts: 29
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
thank you so much!! that is the answer im looking for!!!
I will try to finish it and post some pictures.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-20-2011, 11:11 PM
Registered User
Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Level up: 85%, 23 Points needed
Level up: 85% Level up: 85% Level up: 85%
Activity: 1.7%
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: pomona,ca
Posts: 29
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
I did wiring as your described, however, it didnt work too. The picture is showing just up side wiring diagram.

Since I am not very understand the relay, Should I connect some on "COM"??


Help!!



Quote:
Originally Posted by KPierson_ View Post
You will most likely have to break the "auto" signal too. You should be able to do this with relays.

When you press the down shift button have it break the auto signal, have it break the N signal, and have it apply ground to the down input.

When you press the up shift button have it break the auto signal, have it break the N signal, and have it apply ground to the up input.

You can use two small DPDT relays - one for up, one for down.

Take the Auto signal and run in through the NC#1 contact of down relay and through NC#1 contact of up relay. This will take care of breaking this signal when either button is pushed.

Do the same thing with the N signal by using NC#2 contact on each relay

Lastly, wire the switch outputs to the respective coil (with diodes across each coil) and also wire the switch output to the respective up and down inputs.
Attached Thumbnails
Help!! Adding oem paddle shifter to G35 coupe-untitled-5.png  
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-21-2011, 07:34 AM
Registered User
Points: 3,241, Level: 35
Points: 3,241, Level: 35 Points: 3,241, Level: 35 Points: 3,241, Level: 35
Level up: 28%, 109 Points needed
Level up: 28% Level up: 28% Level up: 28%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 166
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Send a message via AIM to KPierson_
Yes, you have to hook up the com contact. You must CUT each wire and run it THROUGH the relay - in on NC and out on COM (or vice versa). The relay must interrupt the signals.

Also, the coil wiring is wrong. One side of the coil has to go to 12vdc and the other to your switch.

Your switch output needs to go directly to the switch input AND to one side of the coil.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-27-2011, 06:22 AM
Registered User
Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Level up: 85%, 23 Points needed
Level up: 85% Level up: 85% Level up: 85%
Activity: 1.7%
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: pomona,ca
Posts: 29
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Mod completed!!!, perfect looks!!!


Click the image to open in full size.


Click the image to open in full size.


Click the image to open in full size.


Click the image to open in full size.

Last edited by Till; 06-27-2011 at 06:32 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-27-2011, 09:54 AM
SDGenius's Avatar
VRH Equipped
Points: 20,393, Level: 90
Points: 20,393, Level: 90 Points: 20,393, Level: 90 Points: 20,393, Level: 90
Level up: 9%, 457 Points needed
Level up: 9% Level up: 9% Level up: 9%
Activity: 0.9%
Activity: 0.9% Activity: 0.9% Activity: 0.9%
2003 Infiniti G35
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Oside, SoCal
Posts: 12,815
Thanks: 1,707
Thanked 902 Times in 602 Posts
iTrader: (15)
looks great, nice work
__________________
http://www.canibeat.com/2011/09/g35-...sefully-built/
SDGz/SDCE - 1st Gen bolted & cam'd NISMO Sedan

TeamRareJDM
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-11-2011, 11:21 AM
Registered User
Points: 4,065, Level: 40
Points: 4,065, Level: 40 Points: 4,065, Level: 40 Points: 4,065, Level: 40
Level up: 58%, 85 Points needed
Level up: 58% Level up: 58% Level up: 58%
Activity: 0.4%
Activity: 0.4% Activity: 0.4% Activity: 0.4%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 59
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
I know this is an older thread but can you post the model DPDT relays you used and the final wiring?
Also do you have to put it in manumatic to make it work or does it work like the newer cars where you can pull them anytime and it will go into manumatic?
thanks so much

evo

Last edited by evo626; 10-11-2011 at 11:32 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-15-2012, 09:27 AM
Registered User
Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Level up: 85%, 23 Points needed
Level up: 85% Level up: 85% Level up: 85%
Activity: 1.7%
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: pomona,ca
Posts: 29
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
http://minkara.carview.co.jp/en/user.../blog/5612310/

To those all inquired this, please check website attached.

The peddle shifter musts hit the back of steering wheel. I tired my best to cut and sharp it. However, it couldn't work, still hitting. Eventually I removed it. So I believe this is no worth to try.

Looking for another option.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Till For This Useful Post:
Infinite1 (06-24-2013), SDGenius (10-15-2012)
  #15  
Old 10-16-2012, 01:11 PM
Registered User
Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27 Points: 2,127, Level: 27
Level up: 85%, 23 Points needed
Level up: 85% Level up: 85% Level up: 85%
Activity: 1.7%
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: pomona,ca
Posts: 29
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
http://www.infinitiscene.com/forum/t...addle-shifters
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Till For This Useful Post:
Infinite1 (06-24-2013)
Old 10-16-2012, 01:11 PM
 
 
 
submit to reddit
Reply

Tags
03, 2003, car, coupe, diegarm, g35, g37, kit, paddle, q35, relay, shifter, steering, v36, wheel, youtube


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2002 - 2008, G35DRIVER.COM All Rights Reserved.
Advertising - Terms of Service - Privacy Statement - JOBS


G35Driver.com | My350Z.com | MyG37.com | ZDriver.com |

Everyone's Contact Details