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12-30-2005, 02:42 PM
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Any vegetarians or vegans?
I think I'm going to try to give up meat..I don't mean just red meat, poultry and fish too and even shell fish. I tried it a few years ago and did it for a year. I actually liked it..lost some weight, felt better but was protein deficient. Although I did take supplements and ate a lot of soy (being asian it helps) guess I was still lacking something.
Anyone have suggestions to make this transition smooth? Any input? I knowm I know a nice filet mignon is hard to resist...LOL 
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12-30-2005, 02:54 PM
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Great...Now I have to increase the amount of beef and chicken and fish in my diet to make up for your wackiness. Jerk!
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12-30-2005, 03:11 PM
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As a midwestern farm boy who just finished eating a cheeseburger while reading your post I wouldn 't know where to begin doing what you hope to accomplish. It is unthinkable to not eat poultry. I eat chicken every day at least once. Red meat is yummy so I only eat it like twice a week as a treat. Fish is good but I don't like bones so I minimise my fish exposure unless I cook it at home. It's the leafy greans i cant stand. Peas, beans, and broccoli you can keep...asparagus yuck. Beets make me vomit(literally) and other veggies are pretty gross. My opinion is God gave us teeth for chewing meat and lots of it. Fruit is good. Bread is great but bad for you. If I were to try to be a vegan I'd die of starvation .
dating a vegan sucks too. I have a few in the family I married into and lets just say at Christmas and other family gatherings I eat chicken in front of them and they want to gag. The table normally has 2 meat dishes and the rest is veggies and salads. All I ever eat is the chicken. Going out with them is a pain because they can't eat anywhere. When they find something they would liek I end up thinking it is pretty gross or is much too expensive. Do yourself a favor...eat a selective diet that is light on meat but don't cut it out of your diet entirely. That way you can eat anywhere and anything but it you keep it to a minimum you can still find the healthy benefits of the vegetarian lifestyle will work for you.
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12-30-2005, 03:18 PM
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wow... you lasted for a year? That's impressive. I don't have the willpower
 Everytime I try to do something like that, it lasts for a week at the most. I don't eat a lot of meat as it is but for some reason if I know I can't have it, then I want to eat it. If it's really difficult, why not try cutting it out of your diet slowly? ex. red meat first, then white, etc
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12-30-2005, 03:21 PM
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Other than supposed health benefits, is there a reason why you're giving up all meat? What about eggs?
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12-30-2005, 03:41 PM
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No that's my primary reason. Oh..I wouldn't be a vegan or anything or those hardcore people who won't even eat dairy products. I'd just like to cut a lot of the meat outta my diet. bltzkrg---Believe me..being raised in the midwest I know what it is to eat a nice juicy hamburger....okay..now I'm drooling...LOL
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12-30-2005, 04:22 PM
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Don't just cut out all meats. Your body needs protein and meat is the best source.
What you should do is cut out land mammals (Beef, Pork, Lamb). I would not cut out fish and shellfish. Fish contains essential fatty acids. In any case, it's all in how the food is prepared. Start preparing and cooking your own foods. Many restaurant dishes are prepared with butter and cream. Here are some other tips for eating healthy and maintaining a healthy weight: * Understand the caloric value of foods and monitor what you take in for about a month to get an idea of how many calories you are eating in an average day. * Understand the macronutrient content in foods. Shoot for a ratio that is optimal for you. For me, I try to shoot for a 40/40/20 ratio (protein/carbs/fat). I do strength training 3-4 times a week though. If you're not strength training (which I would strongly recommend, btw -- male or female), cut down on the protein. * Learn about the glycemic index and stay away from carbs that have high glycemic index values (white breads, pasta, junk foods and candy, simple sugars in general). * Eat HEALTHY fats. Nuts (especially almonds), olive oil, fish, are great examples. Avoid unhealthy fats -- fatty land mammal meats, cheese, butter, whole milk. * This one is KEY! ... Stay away from foods that contain a large amount of calories from fat AND carbs (especially high-GI carbs). Examples are: pizza, ice cream, donuts, cookies, cake, pasta dishes with lots of oil or cream, fried foods. (If you notice, all of those foods are well known "fattening" foods). * Once you know how much food (calories) you should eat in a day, break that down into 4 to 6 meals and eat every 3 to 4 hours. * Don't drink (much). Aside from the empty calories, alcohol reduces muscle protein synthesis by 30%. Definitely a downer when you're doing strength training. * Drink LOTS of water! Try to shoot for 1 gallon per day. I've been following this since last December, and I went from 215 lbs, 23% body fat to 175 lbs, 13% body fat in ~6 months. During this time, I did little to NO cardio in the gym! My cardio came from sports (skiing, tennis). That's most of it in a nutshell. If you want more detailed information, PM me and I'll be glad to help.
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12-30-2005, 04:42 PM
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I appreciate the input..thank you! If I have more questions..will contact you. Congrats!
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12-30-2005, 05:06 PM
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....but watch your mercury levels if you start replacing land meat with fish.
Everything in moderation, honestly. We're grazing omnivores, we just need to keep from getting too heavily into one pursuit or another. G
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#10
12-30-2005, 05:46 PM
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OK, I’ll chime in since I’ve been a vegetarian for 12 years. I’m not a vegan though, that’s way too difficult and there’s no way I’m giving up pizza, ice cream, cookies, etc.
 I went cold turkey after a food poisoning incident in college and I never looked back. For me, it really wasn’t that difficult since there are so many soy product available in the grocery store (hamburgers, hot dogs, bacon, chicken, hot wings, cold cuts, etc). I never liked fish or sea food, so it wasn’t difficult to give those up. Do I miss it? Nope, but I will admit that if I make it back to Philly, I will have a hard time resisting a cheese steak sandwich! Other than that, I really have no plans to eat meat again unless once I get pregnant the cravings are too much. My husband I and joke that at least I’ll die healthy when I get hit by a car (he’s a steak and potatoes guy). For your transition I suggest buying some of the soy products from Morningstar Farms, Lightlife, or Gardenburger. I really like the Morningstar Farms Grillers Prime; they’re my favorite product by far. Of course, at this point, my taste buds are probably a little out of whack since I don’t remember what meat tastes like and I like to eat really spicy food. Good luck!
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#11
12-31-2005, 09:52 AM
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Hey Aries - I was a vegetarian for a year and a half and the big thing for me was also eating organic. I was almost drifting into veganism but had dairy every month or so. Unfortunately, I didn't plan and really enjoy eating and planning fun meals so it was a bust in the end with me at about 87 lbs. I think "going cold turkey" might not be the way. Heck, I might even shift a bit and start hitting organic greens as my main staple for a month or two and non rennet filled cheese after the holidays because I miss a really health conscious diet sometimes. I doubt I'd ever go completely vegetarian again. Not to be confused with the ethical group but I belong to the Ohio version of peta (people for the eating of tasty animals). Ohio has a very "strong" fast food and red meat eating subculture and they are not messing around. They know that I am not realistically a life long meber but...I stop eating buffalo wings, they will notice and hound me. Ahhhhh...family and friends...my life is yet their business.
Geo is correct I think about fish especially where we live. I always get my fish imported to Ohio except for a once a year fishing trip that lands some walleye though. Unless you are eating from "The Lakes" three or four times a week you should be fine to switch up fish purchasing. There are actually three or four very great arguments for going vegetarian but with any change in lifestyle that is drastic I recommend going slow and getting lots of support.
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12-31-2005, 10:47 AM
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Lovechild...
Thanks you for the input...as far as Mercury is concerned..I don't really...or ever eat fish...occasionally I'll eat crab legs and that's as far as I'll go with fish and seafood. I mainly eat red meat..but that's also sporatic. I know cutting the meat out of my diet will also enable me to feel better and I think have more energy. I haven't thought about eating organic but something I've always wanted to try. I'm not trying to do anything hardcore here...I know it's a life changing process that takes time.
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