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Is Tupac really dead?

I don't know if itís me but Iíve been hearing music that just came out wit new artists and his voice in the lyrics.. Also talk on youtube is heís been spotted at several places..

I dont know but to me sumdan sounds fishy az hell.
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Nothing new... people have been saying he's alive for the past 12 years..
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25. One week after Tupacs death over 1000 people called the cops in Haiti and said that they saw Tupac there...
Well... if he really did flee to Haiti, There's a high probability he's dead now!

Taha, but in all seriousness... I've never been a HUGE fan or follower of 2pac.. mostly because I'm a white boy and I'm only 21... but I am a firm believer in him still being alive.

In his position, he was involved in so much FAME he couldn't hide from the public or the paparazzi. There were so many people with beef against him and he couldn't keep out of the public eye... .he had to do SOMETHING to stay safe. I feel like he wouldn't do it just for the money aspect.. but maybe to live a more peaceful life.
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^^^ yea he isnt alive... just let it go
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2Pac Theories

After leaving the Mike Tyson fight at the MGM Grand on Saturday September 7, 1996, Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting, and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.

Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day. This would make people think there was a conspiracy and there would be huge sales of Tupac's stuff, making more money for Death Row - it doesn't really mean that Tupac is still alive.

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital. The hospital was forbidden to release any by Afeni Shakur, Tupac's mother.

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral. Tupac rapped a lot about dying, even when he first started out as a rapper, so this was common and doesn't mean anything.

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with Suge Knight. This makes it seem like Tupac knew he was going to be shot.

If Suge Knight had Tupac set up, he could have told Tupac to shoot a video like this, as he was his producer.

Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac". His video "Toss It Up" from the new album Makaveli was released under that name. This could just be coincidence, or to show that one album was over and the new one had started.

In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. If the public thought that he was dead, he would be out of it. This doesn't mean that he faked his death - a lot of people always come up with that idea whenever anyone famous dies, like Elvis or Princess Diana.

There are no suspects for the shooting. This could just be because the Police haven't done their job too well.

The Press wasn't going to be allowed at Tupac's funeral, but it was cancelled for unknown reasons. The funeral was cancelled by Afeni because she wanted a cremation for Tupac so he could rest in peace - she didn't want to involve the media.

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why didn't he wear it to a very public event like the Tyson fight? The surveilance camera at the MGM Grand picked up Suge Knight saying "Yo Pac take off your vest, it's hotter than a motha ****a in here."

In most of his songs Tupac talks about being buried when he dies, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he died? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death without an autopsy? There was an autopsy - you can see the pictures from the link on the Pictures page.

Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is slightly different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. Just because Tupac liked the man's ideas, doesn't mean that he would use them. Also, this is another thing that would make people think there was a conspiracy... more money for Death Row.

Part of the title of the Makaveli album is The 7 Day Theory. Tupac was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. As well as this, Tupac's album All Eyez on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13,1996. It's quite a coincedence that the dates are exactly seven months apart. Also, tupac was 25 (2+5=7) , and he 'died' at 4:03p.m.(4+3=7). Hence the title The 7 Day Theory. If people look hard enough it's easy to find any number they are looking for - this probably means nothing.
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The executive producer of The Makaveli album, as listed on the back of the CD, is Simon (a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus, and one of the first witnesses of Jesus' Resurrection. Maybe Suge Knight added this to the album - he knew there would be people that would see this as more 'evidence' that Tupac is alive.

On Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran (which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory) in the song "Niggas Done Changed" Tupac raps the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that *****'s gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knew that he would be dead when Richie Rich's album was released. Like I said before, Tupac rapped a lot about being killed, so this probably means nothing.

A police communication supervisor who identified herself as herself as Mrs. Coleman said: "The rapper will survive." Why did she make that statement? You don't go out and say something like that, if it isn't blatant that Tupac is going to survive! His condition was stable at that time, otherwise Tupac couldn't have survived for seven days in the hospital. Later that week his condition turned critical again, and you know how it ended.

Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert...How come there was no helicopter chase? If someone was to rob a casino the LVPD would have chased him down with a helicopter. Why wasn't this the case at Tupac's shooting? The Police could have been paid off, or maybe there was so much confusion that the cops didn't have a chance to sort out a helicopter chase.

The car that the 'murderers' were using was not found. How can this be when Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert? Once again, the Police could have been paid off. Of course, the owners could dump the car, have its colour changed, hide it anywhere else in the world - how the hell would it be found then?

There is a small black community on the north side of Las Vegas. This strip is only eight blocks long. The attackers were black. Where did they go - where did they hide? They didn't have to go there - they could have gone anywhere!

On the cover of The 7 Day Theory, there is a picture of Tupac being crucified. This fits with the idea that Tupac "died" so he could be reincarnated as Makaveli. Apparently, that cover was supposed to be the cover of Me Against The World, but they saved it for another album instead.

The only witness to the shooting was found shot to death in a hallway of an apartment building in East Orange, NJ. So obviously he can't trstify now. He was also a gangsta, so it could have been a gang related killing. Sources close to him have stated they do not think his death had anything to do with Tupac's - it was just random.

In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead. This could just be another one of those things put in the videos to get more people thinking of conspiracy theories.

In E-40's album Hall Of Game in the song "Million Dollar Spot" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so I evade and plot and plan a life of better things." Once again Tupac mentions his "plan". These are more of those lyrics where Tupac raps about subjects which make people wonder if he faked his death - he always talks about resurrection and death.

In Tupac's song "Ain't Hard 2 Find" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "I heard rumors I died, murdered in cold blood, dramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know momma cryed, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted." It seems as if Tupac foretold the future. It's not exactly accurate; it's obvious that if someone is murdered, their mother would cry. He could have just been guessing, once again rapping about dying.

Scarface's song "Smile", which is a duet with Tupac, was supposedly recorded in September of '96, before Tupac was "shot". But the video for the song was released in May of '97 and the video depicts Tupac rapping while he appears to be crucified. At the end of the video, Tupac falls off the cross and stands up, which is another image of resurrection and Jesus Christ (Makaveli). Towards the end of the video, it can be seen that Tupac is actually portrayed by a lookalike. If Tupac is dead, why are they making us suspicious? To increase record sales and make more money, of course!

In the video for "I Wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto" the town it takes place in is called Rukahs. "Rukahs" spelled backwards is "Shakur". The room he goes into with the girl is room number 7. The clock in the background at the end is at 4:03 - the same time he officially died. More funny stuff from the video producers. This could be some type of memorial for Tupac, as the words and time could be remembering his death.

According to Neal, on the song "Thug Luv" which is a duet with Tupac on Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's double CD Art Of War after Tupac says "whuz poppin' n*gga", Bizzy Bone can be heard saying "He's Alive He's Alive He's Alive" in the background. They could be talking about the song story, or maybe just trying to inspire more conspiracies.

There is a 'new' artist called "Blac Haze". The only song that I have heard from them so far is called "Let Me Holla At Cha". The rapper sounds a lot like Tupac. He might be trying to emulate Tupac's style, a lot of people have similar voices.

The memorial services that were open to the public were both cancelled in Los Angeles and Atlanta. Maybe they didn't have enough space for all of Tupac's fans.

In the video "To Live And Die in L.A." 2Pac is wearing the new Michael Jordan shoes. Thats fine, except that 2Pac died before the shoes were sold. There was no way anyone could get the shoes before the day they were sold- it was impossible to get them, many people wanted them, but couldn't get them. Kinda makes you think, eh?

Tupac was recently sighted at a 7-Eleven sippin on a slurpee. (Date unspecified).
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In the new Greatest Hits album, there is a song called God Bless The Dead.The lyrics say "Rest in peace to my ***** Biggie smalls." Notorious B.I.G.was killed March 9, 1997.-SIX MONTHS AFTER TUPAC DIED!

Makaveli spells out "Make Alive" when rearanged!
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Dont care. Much more important issues in this world then whether tupac is alive.

Besides I heard he was on a ventilator, he was bleeding internally, his heart was decompensating and he was put into an anesthetic coma. Dont think he was going to make it just with those complications alone. Also I dont think the doctor there would have risked his/her license to fake hospital documents/charts, then fake a death certificate or waste thousands of dollars in time/equipment. Especially if he didnt need it and if he could have just got up and walked out. Way too many things too cover up.

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I'm a huge Pac fan and I've researched this topic a lot. And I figure that if he did NOT fake his death, then there at least was some type of conspiracy to kill him, possibly from Suge Knight. There is also the issue of cover up and corruption within the police, in terms of railroading the investigation of his death. One veteran cop even quit his job over his frustration when higher ups forced him to stop his investigation. I guess he was worth a lot more dead than alive? The documentaries on youtube about this are really interesting.. worth checking out IMO
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