Mercedes S500 (amg??)

[Basheer]

Hi, i had an arguement with my friend the other day

he told me about this 2002 S500 amg, and i told him there is no such thing. there is only an S55 and S65. we're only talking about the years of 2001-2004
he insisted there was, and he saw it with his own two eyes. he even took a picture of it with his camera phone, the S500 AMG is clearly visible. it had the amg wheels and everything.

i called a dealership up with him right next to me, and they told me there are no S500 amgs, only S55 and S65 amgs.. like i said.
i cant search s500 amg on google with positive results, and there are none for sale on autotrader or cars.com
i said to him, that the guy probably just re-badged it with the AMG, and put on the wheels... but he said it was an AMG engine.

there is a 200 dollar bet on this lol, so please, any input would be great.

[filanj]

My mom had an '03 S55 AMG. Just turned it in last month It was the first year with the upgraded 493hp engine. The same hp and engine stayed in the S55s up until the new model. The S65 has a 604hp biturbo engine same as the 55s with years. Cheap A$$ed B!tches buy AMG stickers off EBay for a couple bucks and stick them on their car. As for the rims... The are an upgrade most dealers automatically do so they can jack up the price and advertise with AMG-like packages. It always pisses me off when I see some stupid S500 with an AMG sticker on the backs. The real giveaway is the V8 Kompressor or 12 biturbo next to the front wheel well. The engines DO NOT have superchargers or biturbos unless it has the wheel markings. You can PayPal my share of the bet to filanj@aol.com lol

The real AMG's are BEASTS

[filanj]

W220 1999
W220
2006 Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG
Production: 2000–2005
Engine: 2.8L 204hp V6
3.2L 224hp V6
3.2L 197hp I6 Diesel
3.7L 245hp V6
4.0L 250hp V8 Diesel
4.3L 279 hp V8
5.0L 306 hp V8
5.4L 493 hp V8
5.5L 367hp V12
5.5L 493 hp V12
6.3L 444hp V12
6.0L 604hp V12
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Wheelbase: 121.5 in (3086 mm)
Length: 203.1 in (5159 mm)
Width: 73.0 in (1854 mm)
Height: 56.9 in (1445 mm)
Curb weight: 4139 lb (1877 kg)
Fuel economy: City: 16 mpg (US) (14.7 L/100 km); Highway 23 mpg (US)(10.2 L/100 km)
Fuel capacity: 23.2 gal (US)

See Mercedes-Benz W220 for complete details.

In late 1998, an all-new model was launched. Not only did the car maintain the lineage of previous S-Class sedans, but the W220 also had to overturn some of the negative elements of the previous S-Class. The W220 faced stiff competition from rivals like the Audi A8 Mk II, BMW 7 Series Mk IV, Jaguar XJ Mk III, and Lexus LS/Toyota Celsior Mk III.

Production totalled 485,000 units, slightly more than the production totals from the W140.
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Style

Unlike its predecessor, the W220 was no longer the first model to feature the company's new design theme for the next generation of Mercedes-Benz. This honour was given to the A-Class launched in 1997. The new S-Class incorporated the new styling cues and addressed the criticisms of the previous model's styling. Rather than being known as colloquially as 'the tank', the new S-Class was known for its rounded, graceful lines.

Despite being smaller, and therefore addressing another criticism of its predecessor, the new car was roomier inside while the dashboard carried over the new styling details first seen in the Mk I A-Class the year before.
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Engineering

As with each new S-Class, the W220 brought in new innovations such as Airmatic air suspension, Active Ventilated seats (which use miniature fans in the seats to move air through perforations), keyless entry and ignition, radar-controlled Distronic cruise control system and a cylinder deactivation system (in V12 motors only) called Active Cylinder Control, which improves fuel consumption and reduces emissions.

4MATIC all wheel drive was introduced to the North American S-Class for 2002.
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Engines

The W220 had many engine options unlike W126 and W140. The range started with smaller 3.2-litre 224hp V6 motor which was superceded by enlarged 3.7-litre 245hp V6 in S350.

Next is 4.3-litre 279hp V8 in S430 (that one sold very well in the USA) and 5.0-litre 306hp V8 in S500. AMG prepared the S55 with 5.4-litre 367hp V8 motor which was replaced by supercharged version, producing 500PS or 493hp (469hp in American edition).

The 5.5-litre V12 motor started out as 367hp but was fitted with twin-turbochargers (from Maybach engineering work), increasing its output to 500PS (or 493hp in Europe and 469hp in USA).

For one month in 2001, AMG produced S63 AMG with 6.3-litre 444hp V12 in very limited number. An undisclosed number of extremely rare S63 AMG were sold exclusively through AMG in European and Asian markets. That motor was also fitted to just two G63 AMG for the Middle Eastern customers.

AMG then pushed its technological and engineering envelope to produce the successful 6.0-litre 612hp V12 motor, making S65 AMG the world's most powerful five-seat sedan.

As for the diesel motors, W220 had 3.2-litre 197hp I6 diesel and 4.0-litre 250hp V8 diesel.

[filanj]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_S-Class

[G35SHAWN]

AMG wheel is a option, not only last generation S-class, also CLK has that factory option. Anyways you're buddy is rite AMG doesn't exist on neither S320, S430, or S500. AMG is S55, S65, E55, C55. CLS55, SLK. When you say AMG that means hand made engine.

[filanj]

Everytime I see a S500 with a AMG sticker on it I want to spit on it and yell POS loud enough for the stupid owner to hear

[bull3t]

i believe mercedes also made an s63 that was sold outside the u.s.

[G35SHAWN]

Originally Posted by bull3t

i believe mercedes also made an s63 that was sold outside the u.s.

Correct & if i am not mistaking the difference between both 63 & 65 is the S63 is a V8 with 6.2 liter sohc motor, however the 65 is TT with 6.0 liter dohc engine. Getting back to S63 MBusa did offered that in US for only one year along with CL63 & which was only for 2006 model.

[filanj]

Originally Posted by G35SHAWN

Correct & if i am not mistaking the difference between both 63 & 65 is the S63 is a V8 with 6.2 liter sohc motor, however the 65 is TT with 6.0 liter dohc engine. Getting back to S63 MBusa did offered that in US for only one year along with CL63 & which was only for 2006 model.

correct. and if my memory is correct, they only offered it for sale for one month only

[glennp_1999]

Didn't MB have an AMG appearance package for the S class? They have it with just about every model but I don't recall seeing an S class.

[(>")> G35]

^yeah, I just saw one yesterday with the AMG apperance package, but it doesn't come with the AMG badge from the factory.


To the OP, I'm pretty sure it was a S500 with the AMG appreance package and either the dealer or owner put on that AMG badge.

It's kinda like that AMG SL500 I seen on the freeway, or that Lexus Corrola I saw as I headed to the store....

[absolutg]

Originally Posted by G35SHAWN

AMG wheel is a option, not only last generation S-class, also CLK has that factory option. Anyways you're buddy is rite AMG doesn't exist on neither S320, S430, or S500. AMG is S55, S65, E55, C55. CLS55, SLK. When you say AMG that means hand made engine.

don't forget there was a C32 also

[filanj]

Originally Posted by absolutg

don't forget there was a C32 also

woooord
lol

[bull3t]

Originally Posted by absolutg

don't forget there was a C32 also

there are alot more that he left out...c43, c36, slk32, 300e hammer, e63, e50, cl55, cl55 f1, cl65, cl63, ml55, r63, g55, clk55, clk dtm, clk63, a32k, cls63, s600 pullman, sl55, sl65, sl73...i think thats it...oh yea and there was a w202 c55 that was sold in europe

[filanj]

Originally Posted by bull3t

there are alot more that he left out...c43, c36, slk32, 300e hammer, e63, e50, cl55, cl55 f1, cl65, cl63, ml55, r63, g55, clk55, clk dtm, clk63, a32k, cls63, s600 pullman, sl55, sl65, sl73...i think thats it...oh yea and there was a w202 c55 that was sold in europe

none of which equivilates to a S500 AMG of any year