Best Guess # of GT-Rs on the road next year?

[clokwork]

Listening to responses from the west coast, it seems that M3's are abundant (I live on the east coast, so I cant speak for that) Here, M3's are seen, but just as often as they may elsewhere. They aren't scarce though. That being said, I wonder how scarce or not the GT-R will be on the road. No official pricing has been stated by nissan, but I will take a higher guestimate of 65- ~70k. This is right about where the new M3 will be. One thing I keep in mind is that the new M3 does cost a bit more than the previous. Im wondering, in locations where the M3 is seen daily and in abundance, if the same will happen to the GT-R. Though I love having things in common with other people, I would hate to see everyone else around me driving one too . Things like that are going to happen whether I like it or notthough. I understand that. What do you guys think? What's your best guess on how common the GT-R will be on the roads?

[CrazyRuskie]

All I know is, I might have one LOL :-)

I don't think it will be as common as the M3. I think it will be limited production.

[dec55]

If it is as good as I read....I expect to see one every 10 mins. at rush hour here
in Southern California...:lol

I can't wait to get my hands on one....But will wait at least a year or 2 after it
comes out....I wanna see it's reliability as well....

[MixturePinoy]

if I get in an accident for some reason (God bless gapp) I might be rollin M3 or GT-R

[ttrank]

As many as they can bring over will be sold and out on the road. I bet I will start seeing them here and there and then by the time the next year comes out they will be quite popular.

[pdjafari]

^^i doubt this guys....most of you are letting the 'fanboy' inside you speak vs the rational average american. first off the ratio of m3s and g35s or any other performance car (compared to what you see on the road like trucks, SUVs, civics, corollas, camry's, accords..) is like 1 to 4. Secondly, the nicer cars are driven mostly for brand. Hence why you see more 3 series coupes vs G35 coupes...

Now take into effect the price on the GTR...I randomly asked 15 people at work if they'd buy a nissan skyline. half didnt know what the skyline was (no shocker), and the half that did, would never pay more than 40k for a nissan..

Sorry nissan I'm sure you'll sell a couple GTRs here or there, but your product/name/brand isnt enough to drive away ppl in that range....ppl in that range care more about brand name than anything else...

Ppl who drive 15-25k cars (18-23 yr olds) care more about performance...hence why they drive neon srt4s. You will rarely see a 30 something year old driving a neon srt4....

cars priced >30-35k are targeted at males/females over 25...

cars in the 45-60k are normally targeted at males/females over 30...

now think of how many 30 year olds know 'skyline' or 'gtr' and how many of them would be willing to spend 60k+ on a nissan (outside your occassionaly true enthusiast who really knows what he's getting for 60k and cares not about appeal...) (regardless of the fact its a skyline)...

Now for one sec. stop thinking like a 20 year old who plays too much gran turismo and watches fast/furious. People in that age group arent much for modding/performance as are ppl in the 16-25 age group...

based on that alone I dont think it'll sell like crazy. It WILL sell as does any /every other car...but to think it'll be as common as M3s is crazy..

[b00stedjustin]

Originally Posted by pdjafari

^^i doubt this guys....most of you are letting the 'fanboy' inside you speak vs the rational average american. first off the ratio of m3s and g35s or any other performance car (compared to what you see on the road like trucks, SUVs, civics, corollas, camry's, accords..) is like 1 to 4. Secondly, the nicer cars are driven mostly for brand. Hence why you see more 3 series coupes vs G35 coupes...

since when are american's rational? lol. You see more 3 series because they are nicer cars than the G35 coupes lol and yes there is a bit of brand loyalty there. 4 to one is probably a very low ratio. It's probably more like 8 to 1.

Originally Posted by pdjafari

Now take into effect the price on the GTR...I randomly asked 15 people at work if they'd buy a nissan skyline. half didnt know what the skyline was (no shocker), and the half that did, would never pay more than 40k for a nissan..

People will know about the GT-R bud. You keep saying this but i think you are sadly mistaken. Everybody will know about it once it comes out just because of the utter quickness of it. It has set the fastest lap time at "the ring" for any production car.

Originally Posted by pdjafari

Sorry nissan I'm sure you'll sell a couple GTRs here or there, but your product/name/brand isnt enough to drive away ppl in that range....ppl in that range care more about brand name than anything else...

wrong again. Infiniti does not have a strong brand name and they came out of no where with huge sales figues for the G35 (which is a skyline for all of your pesimism) hugely decreasing BMW's, Audi's, and MB's sharehold on this market.

Originally Posted by pdjafari

Ppl who drive 15-25k cars (18-23 yr olds) care more about performance...hence why they drive neon srt4s. You will rarely see a 30 something year old driving a neon srt4.......

based on what? i know a number of 30 year old guys with srt4s. They're quick cars that will spank us in a heartbeat.

cars priced >30-35k are targeted at males/females over 25...

cars in the 45-60k are normally targeted at males/females over 30...

Originally Posted by pdjafari

now think of how many 30 year olds know 'skyline' or 'gtr' and how many of them would be willing to spend 60k+ on a nissan (outside your occassionaly true enthusiast who really knows what he's getting for 60k and cares not about appeal...) (regardless of the fact its a skyline)...

Once again, people will know about this car when it comes out if they don't know about it yet. The buzz is already pretty massive. Tons of people that didn't know anythnig about the GT-R's that i've talked to are anxiously waiting for the new GT-R.

Originally Posted by pdjafari

Now for one sec. stop thinking like a 20 year old who plays too much gran turismo and watches fast/furious. People in that age group arent much for modding/performance as are ppl in the 16-25 age group...

the people who play these games and watch these movies aren't the only car enthisiasts or even Japanese car enthusiasts. Figure though, how long ago did the first F&F or Grand Turismo game come out? Then allow for the change in time->change in education and income->now in the market for more expensive cars = the new GT-R. That's only figuring a small part of the market. You have to add in then everyone else.

Originally Posted by pdjafari

based on that alone I dont think it'll sell like crazy. It WILL sell as does any /every other car...but to think it'll be as common as M3s is crazy..

No it won't sale like crazy, because of the cost for one, but it will easily spank the new M3 and Vettes so Nissan will definitely be taking away some of their client base. But there still is strong client loyalty and pleanty of bimmer and vette fanboys that it won't hurt them too much. I think the GT-R will sell well, but It still wont be very common. (think about how many c6 vettes you see on the road, then add another 20k pricetag and the possible change in demographics). It's not going to sell poorly at all though.

Puria just loves to bash the skylines even though he drives one.

[617G]

i don't know how many there will be, but I plan to smoke each one I see on the road lol

Then when I can afford one, maybe I'll get one for myself

[clokwork]

Originally Posted by 617G

i don't know how many there will be, but I plan to smoke each one I see on the road lol

Then when I can afford one, maybe I'll get one for myself

lol and just what is under your hood? Some of the more intense FI G's that I have seen still arent pulling impressive times for what they put down at the wheels for likely that reason. They cant put the power down to the wheels.

You wont be smoking GT-Rs for long if you are as powerful as you say you are. Most stock turbo cars can become insane in the aftermarket. This is all of course if you are talking about your G35.

Back on topic..

I will be more than happy once Nissan releases official pricing so I can get rid of the speculation cloud over what has already been stated. There are a good handful of GT-R fans that are holding on to the 55k starting price that they read about. I see this as being unlikely and actually hope it costs more so that it would be less common

Even though I cant say I agree with all that Puria is saying, I sure hope hes right about the scarcity of the car

[Skaterbasist]

Originally Posted by b00stedjustin

People will know about the GT-R bud. You keep saying this but i think you are sadly mistaken. Everybody will know about it once it comes out just because of the utter quickness of it. It has set the fastest lap time at "the ring" for any production car.

If you really think the GT-R is going to outperform every single production car that has ever taken Nürburgring, then I have nothing to say

The GT-R will definately be up there, but c'mon, I doubt its going to be quicker than cars that cost half a million such as the Enzo & Carrera GT; No cars under 100,000 will perform as great as those supercars.

I don't believe those rumored times until it becomes official.

But the GT-R is definately going to be a bargain compared to many supercars out there.

I guess we have to wait and see

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[DIGItonium]

I was told by West Covina Nissan that there is about 1500 coming to the states for next year.

[tekknikal]

theyre misinformed

[tekknikal]

my thoughts, xposted from nagtroc

note that i expect a sub$60k price tag, near 997 turbo performance...

as far as im concerned its all but certain that the gt-r will be successful
i think itll outsell the m3... im thinking- 1 gt-r for every two or so Infiniti Ms on the road, or 1 gt-r for every two-three Zs.
quite a bit of them.

statistically i think that generation for generation, the gt-r will outnumbr the m3s on the road.
the marketsize for this segment is about 100,000 cars/yr in the us at present- of which the m3 coupes have about 10%.
with the gtr expected to cost sub $60k, considering also the fact that the gt-r will be THE if not one of the most practical cars in the segment, as well as the highest performing car in the segment.... i think there's a pretty clear case for it to be very successful.... and be more common than the m3.

it seems unbelievable, but the g coupe did it to ALL 3 series coupes, converts included, Ms excluded.
the gtr will be no different. people will recognize the value and the car will sell.

the good news is that this will support us enthusiasts as it gives major companies justification for providing products for the car (as if they didnt have justification already lol)

[tekknikal]

lol. didnt realize someone here was from nagtroc! haha

so let me add this:
i think that the demographics and population-distribution will be similar between the gt-r and m3. so to answer the original question, in places where you see lots of new m3s, expect to see gt-rs.

because of the raw numbers.. it will take some time before you feel like you're seeing a good bit of gt-rs on the road (assuming im right per above).

the thing about using other cars as a comparison is that theyve already been on sale for a while. so if you use the e46 m3 as a metric.. that car's been out for what, 6 years? so basically, thats how the gt-r might be - by the year 2014- which is a long time if you think about it.

[FenixL1P]

if they ask me about a skyline gtr, i'll ask which model and year and generation....