G35 vs 335.NO COMPARISON

[joeygott]

I ended up buying a 335 twin turbo. Many reasons.
Every used G I looked had problems- either lemon car, dealer buy back (2 used 2006's that blew engines due to oil burning), rattled like a 20yr old car, rode rough as heck, been wrecked, been switched from auto car to manual car like the turbo car for sale in CA, or is a silver car with tan interior, something totally crazy, owned by punks, modded in a cheesy (a la fast and furious), clutch was terrible, etc etc.. I couldn't find a CLEAN 05/06 black on black MT car (without baggage) to save my life (within 500 miles of Atlanta). And then I had totally idiots like METHOD RR that wouldn't send me pics because he thought my email address looked suspicious and he thought I was going to steal his pictures and commit fraud. Seriously people, this is the mentality I have dealt with the last 3 months from MOST G owners. Would somebody please tell me what I would do with some G pics of which thousands are available to be copied off this site at any time?

Then I drove a BMW 335. It was night and day. Anyone that tells you different either hasn't driven a 335, or is so blindly loyal to the G that he would say the G is better than anyting out there. I love INFINITY and own one now, but there is NO COMPARISON and that is a fact.

The BMW runs circles around the G, is much smoother, more refined, handles better (verified by most magazines), has MUCH better seats, MUCH better lighting, MUCH better gas mileage, free maint to 50k miles, MUCH better back seat (ac, map lights, much more leg and head room), and feels so much more solid and composed when running it, and the clutch is like butter. With the huge amount of torque available at very low RPM's, it's like driving a V8 vs a 4cyl. Not exaggerating either. And look at the forced induction G's and what they are selling for. Most have been run ragged and won't have the logevity and certainly the warranty that a 335 does and the 335 STOCK will outperform most FI G cars.
There are a few different chips avail for the 335 that EASILY put the car in the high 12's for qtr mile and guess what, still have same fuel economy for everyday driving and still have the full warranty.

So, I have given my INfiniti to my daughter who turns 16 this week, and I graduated to a much better car in the 335. And please don't embarrass yourself by mentioning that I should have waited for a G37. I happened to be one of the few that got to see one in person and it didn't do it for me. And if you look at all the new magazines, they try and sugar coat it, but performance hasn't gotten any better. Car got uglier, heavier, worse back seat, and they tweaked power just enough to cover the new heft. Except for the BOGUS Motor Trend article where they allowed INFINITI to bring an early auto car that didn't have the intercooler and therefore would go into limp mode due to getting hot, every other article in every other magazine still says the 335 is the better car. If you see through the political correctness, you will see that most say it's a MUCH better car. The manual tranny 335's don't have the heating problem (all have intercoolers) and the very early model auto's that went out without intercoolers have been retrofitted with them by BMW, all except the one car that Infiniti drags along everywhere to make their G37 look better than it is.
Infiniti and Motortrend lost me as a customer (and many others according to feedback on forums) when they pulled that crap. At the time of readin the article, I was shopping HEAVY for a G35 and had not even looked at the BMW. But the article was so bogus, that I had to look into it. It actually turned me off on INfiniti more than anything.

I had one G customer mention BMW reliablility. Well, in their V8's, it's not that good, in their 3 series, it's VERY good. The G driver was stupid enough to quote JD powers and I had to go to it and paste the JD Powers page showing the BMW 3 as being more reliable, safer, and better resale. Most other organizations show them about even when it comes to reliablility, with BMW reliablility rising for the last 3-4 yrs and Nissan/Infiniti dropping considerably.

I've already spanked a few G35's and can't wait to do the same to the G37's.

[dec55]

Originally Posted by joeygott

I ended up buying a 335 twin turbo. Many reasons.
Every used G I looked had problems- either lemon car, dealer buy back (2 used 2006's that blew engines due to oil burning), rattled like a 20yr old car, rode rough as heck, been wrecked, been switched from auto car to manual car like the turbo car for sale in CA, or is a silver car with tan interior, something totally crazy, owned by punks, modded in a cheesy (a la fast and furious), clutch was terrible, etc etc.. I couldn't find a CLEAN 05/06 black on black MT car (without baggage) to save my life (within 500 miles of Atlanta). And then I had totally idiots like METHOD RR that wouldn't send me pics because he thought my email address looked suspicious and he thought I was going to steal his pictures and commit fraud. Seriously people, this is the mentality I have dealt with the last 3 months from MOST G owners. Would somebody please tell me what I would do with some G pics of which thousands are available to be copied off this site at any time?

Then I drove a BMW 335. It was night and day. Anyone that tells you different either hasn't driven a 335, or is so blindly loyal to the G that he would say the G is better than anyting out there. I love INFINITY and own one now, but there is NO COMPARISON and that is a fact.

The BMW runs circles around the G, is much smoother, more refined, handles better (verified by most magazines), has MUCH better seats, MUCH better lighting, MUCH better gas mileage, free maint to 50k miles, MUCH better back seat (ac, map lights, much more leg and head room), and feels so much more solid and composed when running it, and the clutch is like butter. With the huge amount of torque available at very low RPM's, it's like driving a V8 vs a 4cyl. Not exaggerating either. And look at the forced induction G's and what they are selling for. Most have been run ragged and won't have the logevity and certainly the warranty that a 335 does and the 335 STOCK will outperform most FI G cars.
There are a few different chips avail for the 335 that EASILY put the car in the high 12's for qtr mile and guess what, still have same fuel economy for everyday driving and still have the full warranty.

So, I have given my INfiniti to my daughter who turns 16 this week, and I graduated to a much better car in the 335. And please don't embarrass yourself by mentioning that I should have waited for a G37. I happened to be one of the few that got to see one in person and it didn't do it for me. And if you look at all the new magazines, they try and sugar coat it, but performance hasn't gotten any better. Car got uglier, heavier, worse back seat, and they tweaked power just enough to cover the new heft. Except for the BOGUS Motor Trend article where they allowed INFINITI to bring an early auto car that didn't have the intercooler and therefore would go into limp mode due to getting hot, every other article in every other magazine still says the 335 is the better car. If you see through the political correctness, you will see that most say it's a MUCH better car. The manual tranny 335's don't have the heating problem (all have intercoolers) and the very early model auto's that went out without intercoolers have been retrofitted with them by BMW, all except the one car that Infiniti drags along everywhere to make their G37 look better than it is.
Infiniti and Motortrend lost me as a customer (and many others according to feedback on forums) when they pulled that crap. At the time of readin the article, I was shopping HEAVY for a G35 and had not even looked at the BMW. But the article was so bogus, that I had to look into it. It actually turned me off on INfiniti more than anything.

I had one G customer mention BMW reliablility. Well, in their V8's, it's not that good, in their 3 series, it's VERY good. The G driver was stupid enough to quote JD powers and I had to go to it and paste the JD Powers page showing the BMW 3 as being more reliable, safer, and better resale. Most other organizations show them about even when it comes to reliablility, with BMW reliablility rising for the last 3-4 yrs and Nissan/Infiniti dropping considerably.

I've already spanked a few G35's and can't wait to do the same to the G37's.

:lol Post back here after 50,000 miles....I have heard stories that were not kind to the owners....

Infinitis overall has done better than same year BMW counter parts.
As far as spanking G35's...and G37... find ones with TTs which probably
be more of a fair fight...


Or you can wait for the Nissan GTR to race on the track...which will be also a twin turbo. (My next car..I hope..


Congrats on the BMW....but I will stick with Infiniti/Nissan myself...

It has a different image which is less snobby and more technological savy than most cars of it's type on the road....
And basically has a overall record of reliablitlity that is fantastic.

Which I am sure your daughter will find the reliability a good thing, but I have
reservations on giving a 16 year old a car that can go a 155 miles an hour
at 6.0 secs or less...

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by joeygott

I ended up buying a 335 twin turbo. Many reasons.
Every used G I looked had problems- either lemon car, dealer buy back (2 used 2006's that blew engines due to oil burning), rattled like a 20yr old car, rode rough as heck, been wrecked, been switched from auto car to manual car like the turbo car for sale in CA, or is a silver car with tan interior, something totally crazy, owned by punks, modded in a cheesy (a la fast and furious), clutch was terrible, etc etc.. I couldn't find a CLEAN 05/06 black on black MT car (without baggage) to save my life (within 500 miles of Atlanta). And then I had totally idiots like METHOD RR that wouldn't send me pics because he thought my email address looked suspicious and he thought I was going to steal his pictures and commit fraud. Seriously people, this is the mentality I have dealt with the last 3 months from MOST G owners. Would somebody please tell me what I would do with some G pics of which thousands are available to be copied off this site at any time?

Then I drove a BMW 335. It was night and day. Anyone that tells you different either hasn't driven a 335, or is so blindly loyal to the G that he would say the G is better than anyting out there. I love INFINITY and own one now, but there is NO COMPARISON and that is a fact.

The BMW runs circles around the G, is much smoother, more refined, handles better (verified by most magazines), has MUCH better seats, MUCH better lighting, MUCH better gas mileage, free maint to 50k miles, MUCH better back seat (ac, map lights, much more leg and head room), and feels so much more solid and composed when running it, and the clutch is like butter. With the huge amount of torque available at very low RPM's, it's like driving a V8 vs a 4cyl. Not exaggerating either. And look at the forced induction G's and what they are selling for. Most have been run ragged and won't have the logevity and certainly the warranty that a 335 does and the 335 STOCK will outperform most FI G cars.
There are a few different chips avail for the 335 that EASILY put the car in the high 12's for qtr mile and guess what, still have same fuel economy for everyday driving and still have the full warranty.

So, I have given my INfiniti to my daughter who turns 16 this week, and I graduated to a much better car in the 335. And please don't embarrass yourself by mentioning that I should have waited for a G37. I happened to be one of the few that got to see one in person and it didn't do it for me. And if you look at all the new magazines, they try and sugar coat it, but performance hasn't gotten any better. Car got uglier, heavier, worse back seat, and they tweaked power just enough to cover the new heft. Except for the BOGUS Motor Trend article where they allowed INFINITI to bring an early auto car that didn't have the intercooler and therefore would go into limp mode due to getting hot, every other article in every other magazine still says the 335 is the better car. If you see through the political correctness, you will see that most say it's a MUCH better car. The manual tranny 335's don't have the heating problem (all have intercoolers) and the very early model auto's that went out without intercoolers have been retrofitted with them by BMW, all except the one car that Infiniti drags along everywhere to make their G37 look better than it is.
Infiniti and Motortrend lost me as a customer (and many others according to feedback on forums) when they pulled that crap. At the time of readin the article, I was shopping HEAVY for a G35 and had not even looked at the BMW. But the article was so bogus, that I had to look into it. It actually turned me off on INfiniti more than anything.

I had one G customer mention BMW reliablility. Well, in their V8's, it's not that good, in their 3 series, it's VERY good. The G driver was stupid enough to quote JD powers and I had to go to it and paste the JD Powers page showing the BMW 3 as being more reliable, safer, and better resale. Most other organizations show them about even when it comes to reliablility, with BMW reliablility rising for the last 3-4 yrs and Nissan/Infiniti dropping considerably.

I've already spanked a few G35's and can't wait to do the same to the G37's.

Are you snorting paint thinner or something? Is this a new 335i you purchased? Why are you comparing it to used Infiniti's? Oh...and the BMW 335i's are INTERCOOLED. Some models didn't include an OIL COOLER...why BMW decided not to put an oil cooler on a turbocharged car that costs in the mid to high $40's is beyond me.

I don't own either car but have test driven both while deciding what my next car will be so I'm not being biased. The BMW 335i, performance wise, is better than the G in all aspects; however, not by as wide a margin as you suggested. Certainly not enough to demand the premium that the 335i demands...plus its iDrive system is less than fun to fool around with.

The only true aspect that the 335i shined in, was outright acceleration from any RPM due to the fact that its twin turbo and that it has an extremely flat torque curve.

Neither interior screams luxury, both have more sporty interiors than anything else. And the red BMW gauge lighting as always bothered me. If you read the 3 series forums, even owners WITH oil coolers are having heating issues, worst of all, if the oil overheats, the car will shut itself off as a "fail safe". Unfortunately, in reality, shutting off a turbocharged car with hot oil is the next worst thing you could do next to pushing the car hard.

The 335i is a great car, don't get me wrong, but its not perfect. Its better than the G from a performance standpoint (I think option and technology wise, the G has more to offer and its navi was more user friendly). The margin between the two is so narrow that I think the G is just the better bargain.

[ttrank]

I'm going to sit back and watch this guy get bashed. There are so many things wrong with his first post...

[ttrank]

335 vs G35/37...NO COMPARISON

How many threads do you need to start?

[badtziscool]

Going on a G35 forum to post that the 335i is a much better car. Good job.

You're a better person that I am. You make more money than I do, since you can buy a 335i and at the same time give your 16yo daughter your G. For some of us, we just can't afford the better car and thus for the money the G was (and still is) the better bang for the buck. $10k difference. That is HUGE for most of us.

[limeg35]

Just thinking out loud...Get some ready and watch how long before he gets ...

By the way, congrats on the new car.

[RCMCFE]

Make sure you go ahead and order a replacement fuel pump...

[dyenboy]

anyone that doesn't know how to spell infiniti...dun believe