So how fast is a 7:29 at Nordschleife "the Ring"?

[ResIpsa]

1. Radical SR8 6:55
2. Donkervoort D8 RS 7:14.89
3. Radical SR3 Turbo 7:19
4. Pagani Zonda F Clubsport 7:27.82
5. Porsche Carrera GT 7:28
6. Nissan GT-R 7:29
7. Porsche 997 GT2 7:31
8. Pagani Zonda F 7:33
9. Koenigsegg CCR 7:34
10. RUF RT12 7:35
11. Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 7:40
12. Mercedes SLR McLaren 7:40
13. Mercedes CLK DTM 7:40
14. Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 7:40min
15. Porsche 997 GT3 7:42
16. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 7:42.9
17. Porsche 996 GT3 RS 7:43
18. Pagani Zonda C12 S 7:44
19. Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24 7:45
20. Porsche 996 GT2 7:46
21. Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera 7:46
22. Jaguar XJ 220 7:46
23. Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 7:47
24. Porsche 997 GT3 RS 7:48
25. Porsche 997 Turbo 7:49.0
26. Lamborghini Murcielago 7:50
27. BMW M3 CSL (E46) 7:50
28. Lamborghini Gallardo 7:52
29. Mercedes SLR McLaren 7:52
30. Ford GT 7:52
31. Mercedes CLK DTM 7:54
32. Porsche 996 GT3 late 7:54
33. Ferrari F430 7:55
34. Porsche 996 Turbo 7:56
35. Ferrari 360 CS 7:56
36. Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 7:56 ´03
37. Honda NSX-R 7:56.733
38. Audi RS4 (B7) 7:58
39. Chevrolet Corvette C6 7:59
40. Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51 7:59
41. Porsche 997 Carrera S 7:59:00 ´04
42. Bugatti EB 110 SuperSport 8:01
43. Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder 8:01.84 ´
44. Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R 8:01:72
45. Mercedes CLK 63 Black Series 8:02
46. Aston Martin V8 Vantage 8:03
47. Porsche 996 GT3 early 8:03
48. Lamborghini Diablo GT 8:04
49. Audi R8 8:04
50. RUF CTR Yellow Bird 8:05
51. Ferrari 575 Maranello 8:05
52. BMW M3 (E92) 8:05
53. Mercedes CLK 63 Black Series 8:05
54. Mercedes SL 55 AMG 8:06
55. Ferrari 550 Maranello 8:07
56. BMW M6 8:07.76 ´05
57. Ferrari 360 Modena 8:09
58. Lamborghini Diablo 8:09
59. Honda NSX-R 8:09
60. Audi RS6 Avant (C6) 8:09
61. Porsche 993 GT2 8:09.3
62. Donkervoort D8 180R 8:10
63. Dodge Viper GTS 8:10
64. Alpina B6 S 8:10
65. Porsche Cayman S 8:11
66. Porsche 993 Turbo (3.6) 8:12
67. Mercedes SL 55 AMG 8:12
68. Mercedes SL65 AMG 890
69. Lotus Esprit Sport 350 8:13
70. Aston Martin V8 Vantage 8:13
71. Dodge Viper SRT-10 8:13
72. BMW M5 8:13
73. Ferrari F355 8:13
74. Mercedes SL65 AMG 8:14
75. Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series
76. BMW Z4 M Roadster 8:15
77. Porsche 997 Carrera 8:15
78. Aston Martin DB9 8:16
79. BMW M6 Cabrio 8:16,52
80. Honda NSX 3.2 8:16.15
81. Porsche 996 Carrera 8:17
82. Porsche 996 Carrera 8:17 ´
83. Aston Martin V12 Vanquish
84. BMW Z8 8:18
85. Chevrolet Corvette C5 Comm. Edition Targa 8:18
86. Ferrari F355 8:18
87. Maserati Coupe GranSport 8:18
88. Porsche 987 Boxster S (276bhp) 8:18.00
89. Audi RS6 (C5) 8:20
90. BMW M3 (E36) 8:20
91. BMW M3 (E46) 8:22
92. Mercedes C 55 AMG 8:22
93. BMW Z3 M Coupe 8:22.0
94. Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R 8:22.38
95. Chevrolet Cobalt SS/TC 8:22.85
96. Porsche 986 Boxster S (262bhp) 8:23
97. Aston Martin DB7 GT 8:23
98. Porsche 996 Carrera 4 8:23
99. Mercedes SLK 55 AMG 8:24
100. Subaru Impreza WRX STi 8:24
101. Mitsubishi Evo VII 8:25
102. Audi RS4 Avant (B5) 8:25
103. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI 8:25
104. Callaway C12 8:25
105. Jaguar XKR 8:25
106. Mercedes SLK 32 AMG 8:26
107. Nissan 350Z (283bhp) 8:26
108. BMW 335i Coupe 8:26
109. Audi S5 8:26
110. BMW M5 (E39) 8:28
111. Porsche 993 Carrera 8:28
112. Porsche 993 Carrera Cabrio 8:28
113. Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R 8:28.21
114. Mercedes CLK 55 AMG 8:29
115. Audi S4 (B6) Avant 8:29
116. Maserati Coupe Cambiocorsa 8:30
117. Cadillac STS-V 8:31
118. BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe 8:32
119. BMW Z4 3.0i 8:32
120. BMW Z3 M Roadster 8:32
121. Lotus Exige 8:32
122. Porsche 986 Boxster S (248bhp) 8:32
123. BMW Z4 3.0i 8:32.0
124. Vauxhall VX220 8:34
125. BMW Z3 Coupe 3.0i 8:34
126. Opel Speedster Turbo 8:34min ´
127. BMW 130i 8:35
128. BMW M3 (E36) 8:35
129. Opel Astra OPC '05 8:35.0
130. Ford Focus ST 8:35.00
131. Porsche 986 Boxster (225bhp) 8:36 Auto
132. Jaguar XKR 8:36
133. Subaru Impreza GT Turbo 8:37
134. Maserati 3200 GT 8:37
135. Mercedes C 32 AMG 8:37
136. VW Golf (IV) R32 8:37
137. Honda NSX 3.0 (1991) 8:37.28
138. Mercedes SL 500 8:38
139. Honda NSX 3.2 8:38.00
140. Renault Megane Sport Trophy 8:38
141. Mazda 3 MPS 8:39
142. Honda S2000 8:39
143. Morgan Aero 8 8:39
144. Audi TT 2.0 TFSI (8J) 8:40
145. Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic 8:40
146. Bentley Continental GT 8:40.3
147. Aston Martin DB7 Vantage 8:41
148. Audi S3 (8L) 8:41
149. Audi S4 (B5) 8:42
150. Audi TT Coupe quattro (8N) 8:42
151. Lotus Exige MK1 8:42
152. BMW M5 (E39) 8:42
153. Honda Integra Type R (DC2) 8:43
154. Honda Civic Type-R (EP3) 8:47
155. Opel Corsa OPC 8:47.99 ´07
156. VW Golf R32 8:49 ´05
157. Jaguar XKR 8:49 ´98
158. Renault Clio V6 Mk I 8:49
159. Mercedes E 55 AMG 8:50
160. Alfa Romeo 156 GTA 8:51
161. Mercedes C 43 AMG 8:51
162. Mercedes CLK 430 8:52
163. VW Golf GTI 8:53
164. VW Golf IV GTI 8:54
165. Porsche 986 Boxster (201bhp) 8:54
166. Opel Zafira 8:54
167. Mini Cooper S Works 8:55
168. VW Golf V6 4Motion 9:09
169. VW Corrado VR6 9:24 ´91
170. Opel Calibra 4x4 9:25 ´
171. Mazda MX 6 9:29 ´93
172. Toyota MR2 9:30 ´90
173. Mini Cooper S 9:31 ´04
174. Nissan 200SX 9:35 ´94
175. VW Polo GTI 9:46,20 ´06
176. Mitsubishi Eclipse 9:55 ´90
177. Mazda 626 (1999) 9:58.776

[gt_performah]

I would conclude it's pretty f&*^ing fast. This is a revised list we will probably see in the future.

1. Radical SR8 6:55
2. Nissan GT-R V-Spec(obviously somewhere between #1 and 3)
3 Donkervoort D8 RS 7:14.89
4. Radical SR3 Turbo 7:19
5. Pagani Zonda F Clubsport 7:27.82
6. Porsche Carrera GT 7:28
7. Nissan GT-R 7:29

[muskamatt]

how could an e36 be faster than an e46 on the ring.....never driven an e36 but this just doesnt make sense

[Texasscout]

Teh grapevine says V-spec is 7:25

[Skaterbasist]

Don't believe it. I believe the 7:38...the GT-R is more than capable of doing this. But its no 7:29 unless its modified or the V-Spec.

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[B L U E S L A T E]

Am I blind or did nobody try to run the Bugatti Veyron here?

I wanna see how 1001HP do on this course.

[Sportcoupe35]

e36 was a different car than the e46. Sure the M3s get more power every generation but the cars become less of a track car and more of an everyday car as well.

[brianyun]

Originally Posted by B L U E S L A T E

Am I blind or did nobody try to run the Bugatti Veyron here?

I wanna see how 1001HP do on this course.

from what i hear, the bugatti beast is more of a straight line car. not so much a track star

[manbeer]

Originally Posted by muskamatt

how could an e36 be faster than an e46 on the ring.....never driven an e36 but this just doesnt make sense

a) E36 is a better handling chassis and weighs a few hundred lbs less
b) time was probably for a euro model which was 286hp in '95 and 323 '96-99

[G4me]

Originally Posted by B L U E S L A T E

Am I blind or did nobody try to run the Bugatti Veyron here?

I wanna see how 1001HP do on this course.

7:40 Bugatti Veyron 16/4 1001 PS/1888 kg

[G4me]

Originally Posted by Skaterbasist

Don't believe it. I believe the 7:38...the GT-R is more than capable of doing this. But its no 7:29 unless its modified or the V-Spec.

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[May. 01, 2008 - 11:00 AM CET]
GT-R ACHIEVES UNDER 7:30 AT NURBURGRING

- GT-R among the fastest ever production road cars at the ‘Ring’ -

(CASCAIS, Portugal, 1st May 2008) - Nissan today announced that its GT-R supercar achieved a lap time at the infamous Nurburgring in Germany of seven minutes and 29 seconds. Recorded on April 16 and 17, the GT-R used was a base specification car and fitted with the standard Japanese market tires. Driven by GT-R chief test driver Tochio Suzuki, this latest lap time beats the previous fastest time for the GT-R by nine seconds.

The previous best lap time for GT-R of 7:38, also driven by Suzuki, was one of the fastest laps achieved by a production car despite conditions being slightly damp on two corners.

“At last year’s testing, we were frustrated by the conditions at the Nurburgring, always believing that the GT-R could go under seven minutes 30 seconds.” said Kazutoshi Mizuno, Chief Vehicle Engineer for GT-R. “Below seven minutes 30 seconds, the GT-R proves it is among the fastest mass-production cars in the world. We set out to build a multi-performance supercar accessible to anyone, anytime and anywhere - I believe the GT-R has delivered that promise.”

Deliveries of the all-new GT-R began in Japan in December 2007. Sales in the US and Canada start in July and extend to Europe and other markets over the next 12 months.

Contact
For more information, please contact Neil Reeve on +41 79701 8287.
nreeve@nissan-europe.com

[G35Ian]

Originally Posted by gt_performah

I would conclude it's pretty f&*^ing fast. This is a revised list we will probably see in the future.

1. Radical SR8 6:55
2. Nissan GT-R V-Spec(obviously somewhere between #1 and 3)
3 Donkervoort D8 RS 7:14.89
4. Radical SR3 Turbo 7:19
5. Pagani Zonda F Clubsport 7:27.82
6. Porsche Carrera GT 7:28
7. Nissan GT-R 7:29

you should revise your list again...

Length Time Make Model Power/Weight Driver Date Source Notes
6:55 Radical SR8 360 PS/650 kg Michael Vergers 2005-09-28 Video
7:12 Radical SR3 Turbo 320 PS/500 kg Phil Bennett Test Drive 07/03
7:14 Donkervoort D8 RS 398 PS/760 kg Michael Düchting sport auto 11/05
7:15 Edo Porsche GT2 RS 612 PS/1284 kg 2005-08-04 Video
7:18 Donkervoort D8 RS 370 PS/670 kg Michael Düchting Sport Auto 12/04
7:22 Loaded BMW M3 CSL ~600 PS/1427 kg Richard Göransson 2007-11-05 video incl RG + 30L fuel, MPSC tires, (Sport Auto Lap with 3 overtakes)
7:24 Lexus LF-A Concept ~552 PS/~1360 kg 2007-12-28 Auto Express

Winding Road
Unofficial time measured by bystanders at the track
7:25 Nissan GT-R V-Spec ~551 PS/~1590 kg 2008-04-08 Car Magazine autoblog.com Unofficial time measured by bystanders at the track
7:27.82 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport 650 PS/1230 kg 2007-09 video Semi-wet conditions.
7:28 Porsche Carrera GT 612 PS/1380 kg Walter Röhrl 2004 Autobild 07/04
7:29 Nissan GT-R 480 hp/1740 kg Toshio Suzuki 2008-04-16 *manufacturer claim.Press release Standard run-flat tires. Dry track.
7:32.02* Porsche 997 GT2 2008 530 PS/1440 kg Walter Röhrl 2007 *manufacturer claim.Motor Authority,

video
Semi-slicks tires.
7:34 Koenigsegg CCR 817 PS/1180 kg Horst von Saurma 2005-10-17 - 2005-10-18 Sport Auto Cold conditions
7:38 Mercedes-Benz SLR 722 GT 680 PS/1390 kg Horst von Saurma 2008-04-xx Auto Motor und Sport
7:40 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 638 HP/1497 kg edmunds.com 08/04 Damp track, 2 occupants, Unofficial time measured by bystanders at the track.
7:40 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 626 PS /1768 kg Klaus Ludwig AutoBild
7:40 Bugatti Veyron 16/4 1001 PS/1888 kg Wheels Magazine Australia, 12/05
7:41 Manthey Porsche GT3 M410 413 PS/1320 kg Lucas Luhr Autobild 07/04 160.868 km/h
7:42 Porsche 997 GT3 415 PS/1440 kg Walter Röhrl Automobil 05/06 sport auto 05/06
7:42 Ford GT 550 PS/1521 kg Octane magazine, 11/05
7:42.9 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 505 hp / 1450 kg Jan Magnussen 2005 Motor Trend[10] Muggy conditions
7:43 Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44 Pagani Zonda S 550 PS/1280 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 02/05
7:46 Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera 530 PS/1330 kg Motor Authority 08/07
7:46 Porsche 996 GT2 462 PS/1450 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 06/01
7:47 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 620 PS/1690 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
7:47 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 E-gear 640 PS/n/a Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 01/07 Sport tyres
7:49 Blitz Toyota Supra 750 PS Herbert Schürg 1997 Video Option Vol.50 Refer to link for modification details
7:49 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 512 ps / 1440 kg Horst von Saurma 2007-06-22 Sport Auto
7:50 BMW M3 E46 CSL 360 PS/1421 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 08/03
7:50 BMW X5 E53 LM Hans-Joachim Stuck 2000 EVO magazine 08/2005 BMW M70 S70B56 engine from a V12 LMR producing 750 bhp
7:54 Mercedes CLK DTM AMG 582 PS/1678 kg Sport Auto 03/05
7:55 Caterham R500 Superlight 233 PS/460 kg Robert Nearn EVO magazine 07/2000
7:55 Ferrari F430 F1 490 PS/1493 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 01/06
7:56 Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 405 PS/1409.1 KG (3100 lb) Dave Hill [28]
7:56 Honda NSX-R (NA2) 280 PS/1270 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best MOTORing 08/02 Omit the safe equipment model No Airbags No ESC No Spare tire
7:56 Porsche 996 Turbo 420 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 06/00
7:56 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 02/04 Sport tyres
7:59* Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51 405 PS/1481 kg driver Dave Hill *manufacturer claim.
7:59 Cadillac CTS-V (Second Generation) ~550 HP/ ~4200 John Heinricy 2008-05-09 manufacturer claim[29]
7:59 Porsche 997 Carrera S Walter Röhrl WHEELS 06/04 PASM setting “Performance”
7:59 Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 Dirk Schoysmans Autocar magazine 1997 Without speed limiter
7:59 Dodge Viper SRT-10 2005-11-?? Motor Trend
7:59 Subaru Impreza Sti Spec-C 280 PS/1370 kg Subaru News 2004
8:01 Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 280 PS/1540 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring - Video Special DVD Series Prototype (weight/horsepower different from production car)
8:02 Mercedes CLK 63 AMG - Black Series 507 PS/ 1790 kg Autobild 07/07
8:03 Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2005) 380 bhp/1570 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/05
8:03 Porsche 911 GT3 360 PS/1391 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 08/99
8:03 Honda NSX-R (NA1) 280 PS/1230 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best MOTORing 02/06 Omit the safe equipment model No Airbags No ESC No Spare tire
8:05 BMW M3 E92 420 PS/1608 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/07
8:06 Subaru WRX STi Spec-C 280 PS/1370 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video "NISMO Beast Unleashed"
8:07 BMW Z8 E52 400 PS/1615 kg autobild.de 06/01
8:09 Audi RS4 420 PS sport auto 06/2006
8:09 BMW M6 E63 507 PS/n/a Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/05 Sport tyres, limited to 259 km/h
8:09 Honda NSX-R 320 PS/1467 kg Sport Auto 08/02 Sport tires, suspension modification
8:10 Chrysler Viper GTS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/97
8:11 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR prototype 280 PS/1420 kg Takayuki Kino****a Best Motoring Video "Carrera Invasion"
8:13 BMW M5 E60 507 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/04
8:13 Ferrari 355 GTB Sport Auto 10/1994
8:22* Chevrolet Cobalt SS 2008 2.0 Turbo *manufacturer claim.
8:22 Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 280 PS/1430 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video Special DVD
8:22 BMW M3 E46 343 PS/1584 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/00
8:22 BMW M Coupe E36/7 321 PS/1445 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/98
8:24 Audi S5 354 PS/1718 kg * Sport Auto 01/08
8:24 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Sport Auto 05/04 Sport tires
8:25 Jaguar XKR Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
8:25 Porsche Cayman S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
8:24 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VI Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/99 Sport tires
8:25 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VII Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/02 Sport tires
8:26 BMW 335i E92 Coupe 306 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 306 hp
8:26 Nissan 350Z 290 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/03
8:28 Porsche 911 Carrera (993) 272 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 07/97
8:32 Porsche Boxster S 252 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/99
8:38 Honda NSX Sport Auto, 08/97
8:39 Honda S2000 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 01/00
8:39 Mazdaspeed3(MPS) 260 PS/1403 kg Mark Ticehurst 2007 Mazda News 06/07[11]
8:40 Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic 344 PS/1505 kg Sport Auto 07/97 Crash involving civilian later in the lap
8:42 Lotus Exige Mk1 179PS/796KG Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/00 Sport tires
8:47 Honda Civic Type-R 200PS/1204KG Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/01
8:49 Volkswagen Golf R32 250PS/1591KG Sport Auto 09/06
8:51 Ford Focus ST 225PS/1330KG Sport Auto 09/05
8:53 Volkswagen Golf GTi DSG Mk5 200PS/1421KG Sport Auto 11/05
8:54 Vauxhall Corsa VXR 192PS/1262KG Sport Auto 04/08
9:05 Ford Focus RS 215PS/1355KG Sport Auto 09/05
9:12 Jaguar S-Type Diesel 208PS/1722kg Sabine Schmitz Top Gear Driven for an episode of Top Gear, (Series 5, Episode 5 Bridge to Gantry)[30]
9:59 Jaguar S-Type Diesel 208PS/1722kg Jeremy Clarkson Top Gear Driven for an episode of Top Gear, (Series 5, Episode 5 Bridge to Gantry)[30]
10:08 Ford Transit (van) Sabine Schmitz Top Gear Driven for an episode of Top Gear, (Series 6, episode 7; Bridge to Gantry)

[B L U E S L A T E]

7:50 BMW X5 E53 LM Hans-Joachim Stuck 2000 EVO magazine 08/2005 BMW M70 S70B56 engine from a V12 LMR producing 750 bhp.....






















X5?!?!?!

[manbeer]

Originally Posted by B L U E S L A T E

X5?!?!?!

yup:

http://www.carenthusiast.co.uk/2000/...5lemans_1.html

[gt_performah]

Originally Posted by G35Ian

you should revise your list again...

Length Time Make Model Power/Weight Driver Date Source Notes
6:55 Radical SR8 360 PS/650 kg Michael Vergers 2005-09-28 Video
7:12 Radical SR3 Turbo 320 PS/500 kg Phil Bennett Test Drive 07/03
7:14 Donkervoort D8 RS 398 PS/760 kg Michael Düchting sport auto 11/05
7:15 Edo Porsche GT2 RS 612 PS/1284 kg 2005-08-04 Video
7:18 Donkervoort D8 RS 370 PS/670 kg Michael Düchting Sport Auto 12/04
7:22 Loaded BMW M3 CSL ~600 PS/1427 kg Richard Göransson 2007-11-05 video incl RG + 30L fuel, MPSC tires, (Sport Auto Lap with 3 overtakes)
7:24 Lexus LF-A Concept ~552 PS/~1360 kg 2007-12-28 Auto Express

Winding Road
Unofficial time measured by bystanders at the track
7:25 Nissan GT-R V-Spec ~551 PS/~1590 kg 2008-04-08 Car Magazine autoblog.com Unofficial time measured by bystanders at the track

Here is why I'm making a case against 7:25. 7:29 changed the whole game. I don't think Nissan is going to try to sell a V-Spec GTR that is 30k+ (maybe more) and it basically has a 4 second advantage on the base model. Below 7:15 maybe wishful thinking on my part. When it's all said and done I believe the V-Spec's "Ring" time will be anywhere between 7:15 & 7:21.