Car and Driver Roat Test

[dmitriylm]

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test


GTR vs 911 Turbo vs M3. I was pretty shocked by the outcome but C&D has always been a big M3 whore.

[Sukairain]

M3 > 911 Turbo


Lol~ we don't even need to look at GT-R at this point. C&D thinks they can dent the armor on the GT-R, but ends up looking like complete morons.

[dec55]

(we’re partial to the naturally aspirated models),

They admit from the beginning they are biased......but they just can't help but
complement the GTR.

[350Zed]

M3 beats GT-R & Porsche Turbo in C&D Comparison Test

...but thanks anyways for sharing

[UltimateGee27]

wow i will never buy another c&d magazine again.....first place to the M3 are you kidding me? i would have put it in 4th....and yes i know there were only 3 cars...but the gap between 2nd and 3rd is so big it comes in 4th....

[mushy]

they're just a bmw whore. they are loosing their creditability.

[LiquidGx]

Wow, that's shocking coming from a magazine that has more BMW advertisements than a BMW dealer.

[qbturbo]

Oh boy, time to cash in on those BMW ads.

I never relied on C&D tests anyway, they are not "credible" in my book.

Writing that the GTR's numbers matches the Enzo's numbers and then giving the M3 first place? I don't care if the M3 makes you feel like your riding on air, how can all of the GTR's performance superiority be negated over the M3s comfort?

C & D, wake up and smell the coffee.

[qbturbo]

sorry about the double post, but C&D deserves it!

[G4me]

Sales for the M3 must not be doing so well.

They should consider renaming the magazine Car and BMW Driver.

[Sukairain]

I can see it now:

Car & Driver Supercar Shoot out. Bugatti Veyron vs Ferrari FXX Evolution.

Winner - BMW 135i.

[jaspergtr]

Originally Posted by Sukairain

I can see it now:

Car & Driver Supercar Shoot out. Bugatti Veyron vs Ferrari FXX Evolution.

Winner - BMW 135i.

i was just about to click off this thread and i saw this.

[350Zed]

Originally Posted by Sukairain

I can see it now:

Car & Driver Supercar Shoot out. Bugatti Veyron vs Ferrari FXX Evolution.

Winner - BMW 135i.

And here's how they do it...

Styling - Veyron 10, FXX 10, 135i 2
Acceleration - Veyron 10, FXX 10, 135i 2
Handling - Veyron 10, FXX 10, 135i 2
Interior - Veyron 10, FXX 10, 135i 2
Trunk space - Veyron 0, FXX 0, 135i 1000000000000000
Gotta-have-it-factor - Veyron 10, FXX 10, 135i 1000000000000000
My-sister-says-its-cute-factor - Veyron 0, FXX 0, 135i 1000000000000000

Totals

Veyron - 50 pts - tie for 2nd
FXX - 50 pts - tie for 2nd
135i - 3000000000000006 pts - 1st

135i = C&D Winnar!!!!!!111111oneone!!!!111one

[MyOtherCar_GT-R]

Excerpt from Autoblog.com

Car & Driver is a common choice as bathroom reader around Autoblog HQ, though thumbing through the latest issue had us contemplating using the glossy pages for TP. C&D got its hands on Nissan's new GT-R and its development benchmark, the Porsche 911 Turbo. That's great so far, as everyone wants to know how the Nissan stacks up against its bogey. The trouble comes when a BMW M3 gets tossed into the mix. What? The M3 is a hell of a car and it clearly earns its perennial 10-Best status, but it's outgunned and mismatched in this company. Somehow it managed to win a three-way comparo with two supercars anyway.

The explanation given was that the M3 attended as the "voice of reason" and gosh, just happened to be everyone's favorite. It's no great leap to imagine that the smallest, lightest car with sedan lineage would feel lighter on its feet and be a better everyday conveyance than two purpose built supercars. Thanks for the detective work, guys, but we think the M3 is a bit wide of the bullseye at which the GT-R and 911 were aimed. It's long been grumbled that C&D is in cahoots with this automaker or that one (an accusation that's been levied against every one of the big four major auto publications at one point or another), and the outcome of this comparo will surely fan those flames. We call foul on a few levels. The larger issue is the poppycock categories of "Fun to Drive" and the even more preposterous "Gotta Have It Factor" that arguably allow comparison results to be twisted one way or another, but also the reasoning for bringing the M3 knife to a big, turbocharged coupe gunfight is flawed. GT-R and 911 Turbo buyers don't strike us as the type of folks who might cross shop the M3. They want a range-topper, not a segment-pole-sitter.

Here's the real deal - ignoring the noise of the M3, the GT-R spanks the 911 Turbo on the track, while the Porsche feels like a more quality piece (at double the price, it'd better). While both cars sport AWD chassis that vector torque, the Nissan is quicker on its feet and dramaless where the Porsche is swinging wide. Both are a total hoot to drive, but the GT-R team definitely bested its development target as far as raw performance goes. Controversy will undoubtedly sell dead trees, though, and you can't really blame an increasingly irrelevant buff book for trying to find a hook. Take pity - hit the link and share some traffic.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/b...n-gt-r-and-91/

[jaspergtr]

Originally Posted by 350Zed

And here's how they do it...

Styling - Veyron 10, FXX 10, 135i 2
Acceleration - Veyron 10, FXX 10, 135i 2
Handling - Veyron 10, FXX 10, 135i 2
Interior - Veyron 10, FXX 10, 135i 2
Trunk space - Veyron 0, FXX 0, 135i 1000000000000000
Gotta-have-it-factor - Veyron 10, FXX 10, 135i 1000000000000000
My-sister-says-its-cute-factor - Veyron 0, FXX 0, 135i 1000000000000000

Totals

Veyron - 50 pts - tie for 2nd
FXX - 50 pts - tie for 2nd
135i - 3000000000000006 pts - 1st

135i = C&D Winnar!!!!!!111111oneone!!!!111one

man, i can't believe how you messed those results up....



... it's 300000000000000008