2010 Corvette gets launch control

[aero]

Thought you guys would be interested in this. Will be standard on all manuals.

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/index...stem-Explained

I have mixed feelings about it, part of me thinks it's sick, another part thinks that this completely defeats the purpose of having 3 pedals. But on the bright side, this sheds some light on what LS3 C6s are capable of. They're claiming that the new grand sport model does 0-60 MPH in 3.9 s, equipped with LC and weighing 150 lbs more than a base. So one could argue that a skilled driver in the lighter base model 08/09 (with the same powertrain) should have the quicker car with a perfect launch. To some degree it validates what two close friends have done, multiple runs to 60 MPH timed between 3.85-3.9 s. Pretty impressive for a $40K car.

[Klubbheads]

that is pretty cool..... A friend told me 2 days ago.....

[Wannabe6MT]

Love the Vette. This is awesome.

[aero]

They're still going for about $9K under MSRP. GM is hurting. My little brother just bought one the other day (09, white w/gray wheels), listed at $51K, they let it go for $42K. The thing had been sitting on the lot so long the rotors were completely rusted over and the battery was dead.

God forbid any of us needs warranty work though, will probably have to file a claim with the treasury department!

[Beebo]

Interesting... i love the Vette but i don't think id buy one with the way GM is doing. i know i know buy American and help the economy but eh

[Skaterbasist]

Wait, so the weight went up? Is it just because of the LC? I always thought LC was just software based.

I hate to see any weight go up in a car like the Corvette. Anyhow, it's a nice feature. As long as it has an on/off button (im sure it does, why wouldn't it?), it's just an extra technology that some might find useful. It doesn't take any appeal of manual transmission. It's not like this makes it in to a DSG-like tranny at all; that's a completely different story.

I don't mind any extra "nanny" technology in true manuals as long as they give the driver the option to turn them off and keep it off with just a push of a button. That's one reason why I give Nissan so much credit for the synchro rev-match feature; it's a great technology, but best of all, gives the driver the option of doing the good old rev-matching himself.

[aero]

Originally Posted by Skaterbasist

Wait, so the weight went up? Is it just because of the LC? I always thought LC was just software based.

I hate to see any weight go up in a car like the Corvette. Anyhow, it's a nice feature. As long as it has an on/off button (im sure it does, why wouldn't it?), it's just an extra technology that some might find useful. It doesn't take any appeal of manual transmission. It's not like this makes it in to a DSG-like tranny at all; that's a completely different story.

I don't mind any extra "nanny" technology in true manuals as long as they give the driver the option to turn them off and keep it off with just a push of a button. That's one reason why I give Nissan so much credit for the synchro rev-match feature; it's a great technology, but best of all, gives the driver the option of doing the good old rev-matching himself.

Weight just went up for the new grand sport model. From what I understand LC is just software, you hit the traction control button twice, floor it with the clutch pedal depressed, ECU holds high RPM, then release the clutch and it takes off, slightly cutting throttle if you slip.

No comment on GM's remarks about the GT-R's LC.

[Skaterbasist]

Thanks for the Clarification. I thought you were implying that the base C6 went up in weight.

[jaspergtr]

Originally Posted by aero

No comment on GM's remarks about the GT-R's LC.

No comments necessary, I've launched my car dozens of times now, and still have a warranty...

I've been getting 11.4's for quite some time and I do it with a couple of car seats in the back.

That being said - I'm glad GM is 'upping' their game in the supercar world. I realize that the base C6 isn't their supercar, nor their Gransport. But if technology ever makes it to the Z06, or the ZR-1 ever goes back into production, it'll be another notch in GM's belt.

^ And that being said, I'll never buy a GM in this current economy.

[aero]

Originally Posted by jaspergtr

No comments necessary, I've launched my car dozens of times now, and still have a warranty...

I've been getting 11.4's for quite some time and I do it with a couple of car seats in the back.

That being said - I'm glad GM is 'upping' their game in the supercar world. I realize that the base C6 isn't their supercar, nor their Gransport. But if technology ever makes it to the Z06, or the ZR-1 ever goes back into production, it'll be another notch in GM's belt.

^ And that being said, I'll never buy a GM in this current economy.

I think they were hinting that if you use LC and your diff grenades, it's covered (whereas it wouldn't be in the GT-R). But they typically start out with software similar to the GT-R LC version 2, lower RPM start and less intrusive traction control.

I don't know what I'd call the base C6 LS3. I can tell you this, it will *briskly* pull away from an M5, M6, even an Audi R8. I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't call it a supercar because of its price, but given that GM has finally admitted it's underrated (albeit indirectly), it definitely slaughters quite a few supercars. Apparently with a perfect launch, 0-60 is 3.8-3.9 s, 0-100 is 8.9 s. All you need is a Vararam or Callaway ram air intake ($500) and 0.2 s is shaved off of ~0-70 and 0.3 s is shaved off the quarter mile (they have a ridiculous amount of timeslips to prove it). The things ram so much air into the manifold they produce low boost.

On another note, I think people are way too worried about the GM situation. People are out there buying imports that require thousands of dollars in yearly maintenance, kids are buying used E46 M3's with no warranty (bye bye college savings if that engine goes). Worrying about a gasket replacement on a GM is pretty minor compared to the issues facing a lot of people.

[jaspergtr]

Originally Posted by aero

I think they were hinting that if you use LC and your diff grenades, it's covered (whereas it wouldn't be in the GT-R). But they typically start out with software similar to the GT-R LC version 2, lower RPM start and less intrusive traction control.

I'm curious what you're basing this off of... You can launch it anywhere, in any condition, without hitting a single button, ever.

[WhosUrBuddiee]

That is so amazing.

[aero]

Originally Posted by jaspergtr

I'm curious what you're basing this off of... You can launch it anywhere, in any condition, without hitting a single button, ever.

I'm talking about specifically using the LC function and something exploding in the process, then coverage being denied (not gunning it auto mode).

I'm detecting that tone again man, that "my car is 8 million times better than your car" tone. Are we really gonna go there again?

[Kuneff]

I'd take the Corvette over the GTR any day of the week....

Too many horror stories about the GTR tranny not holding up after turning the VDC off for a launch. Why would you market it, promote it and sell it yet not back it up with your warranty???

A Corvette will be in my future some day.

[IVRY PRL]

I started off liking the GT-R better, then changed to Corvette.
IMO, both cars have their downsides, just the GT-R has more.

Problems:
Vette (Z06 only for me):
American (this is.. huge for me actually, I've sworn all my life that I'll never own a domestic)
Stock seats are awful

GT-R
Expensive as fvck.
No real manual.
Launch Control fail.
N/A > Turbo
RWD > AWD
A pain in the a55 to actually find.
Heavy.