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I wouldn't be surprised though ( and I can't say it as a fact since I've never driven either ) if the suspension is softer on the ZR-1 than the GT-R due to the ZR-1 having magnetic shocks. I know a few magazines have said it's softer than the Z06's. The Vette should have had OPTIONAL Carbon Ceramic brakes...this would have made it a better competitor price wise to the GT-R.

Both are great cars for sure...
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The Vette should have had OPTIONAL Carbon Ceramic brakes...this would have made it a better competitor price wise to the GT-R.
I never thought about that. I wish GM did.

The CC brakes definitely add a pretty $ to the MSRP.

So you're suggesting that the ZR-1 be offered with CC brakes as an option - for those who like the extra power, but don't track in segments of greater than 30 minutes with the car (roughly 99.9% of its customers).

That could conceivably bring the price of the ZR-1 down to $100k (down from $120k with standard options), or about $90k stripped - right near GT-R range.
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Is this run against the normal GT-R and not the V-Spec or the upcoming 600hp LM version?
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Standard GT-R.
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Seems to me that if Chevy can run their special edition version, so should Nissan?
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Seems to me that if Chevy can run their special edition version, so should Nissan?
Oh, it wasn't a head to head test. Sport Auto Magazine runs every car around the 'Ring without traffic. They run a few other tracks (including their wet track) as well.

This wasn't a ZR-1/GT-R shootout. It was two tests ending up with the same result. That's all. At least for the 'Ring.
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I was referring to the people here comparing the two.
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I'll still take a GTR over the vette, both cars are nice either way though
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the only thing that made sense in this thread is jeff92's post...why not compare a reg vette to a GTR, then the ZR1 to the new V or LM
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Perhaps because there is no statistical data for the Spec-V on the ring by Sport Auto, there is no LM version yet, the regular 'Vette falls short on price and performance to be in the same league as the GT-R, and the Z06 already proved to be quite an adequate comparison.

In fact, Sport Auto acheived a 7:40 in the Z06.

Why would somebody compare base 'Vette to a base GT-R?

Should we also compare the base 911 to the GT-R? No. The 911t is the competitor here.

I just found it ironic that the ZR-1's time is so closely matched to the GT-R's.
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jasper my post wasnt directed towards you whatsoever, more or less the zr1 fanboys MAKING the comparisons...they arent in the same league theres a 40-50k price difference here which if u took 40k and put it into the GTR would piss and sh!t bricks all over the zr1...
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jasper my post wasnt directed towards you whatsoever, more or less the zr1 fanboys MAKING the comparisons...they arent in the same league theres a 40-50k price difference here which if u took 40k and put it into the GTR would piss and sh!t bricks all over the zr1...
Well, then stand back as I try to fit my foot into my mouth... I might need the extra room.

I think that the GT-R is quite a confident car, that anybody can drive, and have complete control over - 99% of the time (unless you do something extremely out of character for a normal driver).

I can't really compare it to any other car, because I've never experienced one like it, before.

The closest I can compare it to - is the C4S w/pdk. I think that would be a good comparo.
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jasper my post wasnt directed towards you whatsoever, more or less the zr1 fanboys MAKING the comparisons...they arent in the same league theres a 40-50k price difference here which if u took 40k and put it into the GTR would piss and sh!t bricks all over the zr1...
Ha ha, you havent looking into prices for parts on the GT-R. That 40k would only buy you a set of brakes, exhaust and a carbon fiber engine cover.

There is a price difference but they are still in the same leauge. They are very closely matched performance wise with two completely different platforms, which makes for a fun comparison. Same reason the GT-R has been compared with the 911 Turbo so many times, even though there is a 60k price difference.

If you want to be 'fair' and do comparisions purely on price range, then do a GT-R and Viper ACR. Only about a 10-15k difference.
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Ha ha, you havent looking into prices for parts on the GT-R. That 40k would only buy you a set of brakes, exhaust and a carbon fiber engine cover.

There is a price difference but they are still in the same leauge. They are very closely matched performance wise with two completely different platforms, which makes for a fun comparison. Same reason the GT-R has been compared with the 911 Turbo so many times, even though there is a 60k price difference.

If you want to be 'fair' and do comparisions purely on price range, then do a GT-R and Viper ACR. Only about a 10-15k difference.
$20k will get you 800hp. Plenty of GT-R's are getting this, and running low-mid 10's.

One did the standing mile in 29sec 0-186mph (310kph).

I don't think that price should be the only classification for comparison - but relative performance as well. If it was just price, we could throw in a Hummer, LS430, and a Range Rover.
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I was semi kidding. I know 40k can do alot, but the GT-R prices are pretty crazy. I completely agree, I do not think price is the only factor. If anyone performace should be the main factor and that is why the GT-R, ZR-1, and 911Turbo are always compared.

I am surprised I never see the ACR in any comparisons though, would make it more interesting. Kinda like none of the companies really want to compare their car to one.
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