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Old 06-12-2008, 10:41 AM
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Another red flag?

Another Obama buddy is exposed: More George Soros links too.

Johnson resigns from team vetting Obama veep

A manager of Democrat Barack Obama's vice presidential search team resigned Wednesday amid criticism over his personal loan deals.http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...p085855D90.DTL


Yep - CHANGE
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change is soooo cool.

gimme a fist bump... (it's good for 1000 votes everytime - i'm upset we waited so long to discover this recruiting method)
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What do you mean change? You mean Obama's "change" platform is false as he's guilty of the same corruption as what was in office for the last 8 years? Is that your point?

BTW your link is dead.

If you really want to sling mud in order to discredit Obama, there's plenty of mud from McCain's camp also. Is it really worth it?
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:53 PM
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straight out of her mouth (yesterday)-

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Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.

i highlighted the similarities than agree with totalitarianism.

i'm going to leave redistribution of wealth alone for now (communism), and control over a company's assets (socialism)...
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What do you mean change? You mean Obama's "change" platform is false as he's guilty of the same corruption as what was in office for the last 8 years? Is that your point?

BTW your link is dead.

If you really want to sling mud in order to discredit Obama, there's plenty of mud from McCain's camp also. Is it really worth it?
hell, yeah! let's fling it!

it's been a while since i've played in the mud...

but - you're saying obama is not the change we are looking for? and that if we vote for him, it's like 4 more years of bush corruption?
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hell, yeah! let's fling it!

it's been a while since i've played in the mud...

but - you're saying obama is not the change we are looking for? and that if we vote for him, it's like 4 more years of bush corruption?

No. I'm saying that's what the OP is saying.
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Yup, been slinging mud for 8 years.
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well that's no fun. but basically, yeah, that's what i got out of it...

but let me add - this is exactly what obama's platform has been from the beginning - change in policy, but even more importantly - change in politics.

i see hypocrisy. 'look at me, i'm so different. i'm unlike any candidate you've ever seen before, untainted and unteathered. i won't work for special interests, i'll work for you.'

but then, the more we dig and dig, we find out he is indeed just like any other candidate - has mccain ever tried to prove the opposite of himself?

this is where i see the divide. that's like the governor who was tough on crime got caught in a prostitution scandal... that in itself is no big deal. it was the fact that he was for the prosecution of government officials who were corrupt, and was corrupt himself.

so obama is taking this same approach, and we are finding out, that it is the same type of politics that we've seen in the past. and i wish he would stop saying the contrary.
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McCain is touting himself as a war hero. Was he?
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I don't think McCain has ever said he is a war hero, buts other have. What is your basis to disagree with that statement?
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was McCain a war hero? What a stupid question, to me he was, he was a POW in Vietnam for 5 1/2 years, what more do you want? 3 unearned purple hearts like Kerry?
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McCain is touting himself as a war hero. Was he?
i never heard this... a self-proclaimed hero? dude, i would laugh my a$$ off.

but others are saying it. hell, even hillary, obama, and everyone says it... it's the best way to court the military vote.

he's said that he was a veteran who served his country in a time of war.

any truth to that? i dunno, let's ask dan rather.
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Hey just sayin', another red flag? See how this mudslinging thing works?

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

As far as the "war hero" thing, I punched in McCain war hero? in google and came with a ton of links. Leads me to believe he's using his military past to further is polictical career yes?
http://www.witntv.com/home/headlines/13883787.html
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of course he is, much in the same way barrack is using his 3 years in congress to advance his.

it's a called qualifications... in mccains corner, he's touting his service show he's dedicated to his country. and i don't know a better qualification than using actions to define who you are.
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