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Old 06-19-2008, 12:48 PM
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McCain, Enron, and Energy Speculation



Found this pretty interesting. Discuss.

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Enron lobbied the gov't for deregulation of commodities trading; essentially creating the Enron Loophole and the massive rise in the price of gas we see today due to speculators. In 2002, McCain and other Republicans acknowledged and argued for closing the loophole. The Farm Bill that was recently passed by Congress, despite a Bush veto, removes the Enron loophole. McCain fought against it and instead is pushing for alternative energy markets.
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I was watching O'Reilly last night, and he played a snippet from Ben Stein. Stein was talking about a meeting or something he was at with a bunch of speculators/special intrest groups, and how they were laughing about all the money they were making at our expense!
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why am I not surprised. All aboard the straight talk express!
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Haaaaaaaaaaaaa Gas Tax Holiday!! This dude is a joke!
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Obama's got change like Brawndo's go electrolytes, its what we CRAVE.

McCain, Obama and Hilldog are the worst candidates I've seen since Buch. We haven't had a real president since Eisenhower/JFK. After that, all Clowns.
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Haaaaaaaaaaaaa Gas Tax Holiday!! This dude is a joke!

It's about as intelligent and as much of a solution as taxing windfall profits...
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LOL...the media are so far in the tank for this guy its pathetic.
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If no one has noticed, the special interests have already crafted the GOP issues platform for the upcoming election.

Issue #1:
-Drill offshore

Issue #2:
-Drill ANWR

Issue #3:
-Oil sands and oil shale?????

Issue #4:
-Drill where no man has drilled before!

Issue #5:
-Americans will get cheap oil IF we find anything. Oh BTW, we promise not to fux0r the environment, but if we do, we will handle it like we did the Valdez incident. :P Did I mention that residents in Alaska are still suing Exxon/Mobil over that?


Now for a glimpse of oil company issues for 2012...

Issue #1:
-Oil companies don't want to clean up their operations at Prudhoe Bay when that field is fully shutdown. Our plan is for the Federal government and the taxpayers to fund the environmental cleanup once they find out all the crap we've been hiding from them. LOL!?
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As for speculators.... They do their jobs very well. There are speculators for all types of commodities. So why point a lens on oil speculators only? Because the media is looking for scapegoats to justify political posturing by the oil lobby and the GOP? It would be more beneficial to get at the real truth. Our money is worthless and OPEC is simply collecting what their due after we went on a monopoly money printing binge to pay for the Iraq boondoggle a.k.a. W's legacy.
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If no one has noticed, the special interests have already crafted the GOP issues platform for the upcoming election.

Issue #1:
-Drill offshore

Issue #2:
-Drill ANWR

Issue #3:
-Oil sands and oil shale?????

Issue #4:
-Drill where no man has drilled before!

Issue #5:
-Americans will get cheap oil IF we find anything. Oh BTW, we promise not to fux0r the environment, but if we do, we will handle it like we did the Valdez incident. :P Did I mention that residents in Alaska are still suing Exxon/Mobil over that?


Now for a glimpse of oil company issues for 2012...

Issue #1:
-Oil companies don't want to clean up their operations at Prudhoe Bay when that field is fully shutdown. Our plan is for the Federal government and the taxpayers to fund the environmental cleanup once they find out all the crap we've been hiding from them. LOL!?
i noticed... but i think the media is steering this... they tell the people what they should/shouldn't be caring about. it is getting quite frustrating. it sells. it's easy to market tragedy. no one will watch if you don't have anything negative to create or draw negative attention to.

i.e. whatever happened to the military education benefits?... aahhh, don't care anymore, is michelle wearing pantyhose.
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Originally Posted by shibal_z
If no one has noticed, the special interests have already crafted the GOP issues platform for the upcoming election.

Issue #1:
-Drill offshore

Issue #2:
-Drill ANWR

Issue #3:
-Oil sands and oil shale?????

Issue #4:
-Drill where no man has drilled before!

Issue #5:
-Americans will get cheap oil IF we find anything. Oh BTW, we promise not to fux0r the environment, but if we do, we will handle it like we did the Valdez incident. :P Did I mention that residents in Alaska are still suing Exxon/Mobil over that?


Now for a glimpse of oil company issues for 2012...

Issue #1:
-Oil companies don't want to clean up their operations at Prudhoe Bay when that field is fully shutdown. Our plan is for the Federal government and the taxpayers to fund the environmental cleanup once they find out all the crap we've been hiding from them. LOL!?
i noticed... but i think the media is steering this... they tell the people what they should/shouldn't be caring about. it is getting quite frustrating. it sells. it's easy to market tragedy. no one will watch if you don't have anything negative to create or draw negative attention to.

i.e. whatever happened to the military education benefits?... aahhh, don't care anymore, is michelle wearing pantyhose?...
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