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07-08-2008, 11:22 AM
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Wow, is Iraq for real?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080708/...IzWhSaFjZvaA8F
WTF, where do they get off telling us they dont want the U.S there? If it wasnt because of the U.S they would still be impaled on Sadaams boot. Not to mention that many americans including me think the billions spent by the U.S on their crappy Iraq could very much be used at home. I say, lets give them what they ask for. Bring everybody back, stop spending billions on war and risking American lifes. Let them rejoice in their stupid sand box till they rot.
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07-08-2008, 12:29 PM
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guess they think this police are ready for the job. But i wouldn't think they want every american forces out. Just the majority of the army. Special squads should still remain to look over them until they proof their ready to stand on two feet. Ya i think we should start pulling out slowly, but those alqueda sp? are like weeds. they sprawn up if we pull out. US got herself in a conumdrum sp? lol
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07-08-2008, 12:35 PM
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Iraq should take back it's oil fields and kick out ExxonMobil, Shell, BP, and Total. I wonder how long it'll take before we have to re-deliver "freedom" to the Iraqi people.
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07-08-2008, 12:37 PM
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I was trying to think of when they asked us to come in.
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07-08-2008, 01:37 PM
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they did...
i spoke to many iraqi's that wouldn't stop thanking us. but this is a political move. what better way could a republican president show his support for the rnc? if bush becomes anti-war and mr. stable, than that will add credibility to mccain's positions. all he had to do is to get the iraqi's to agree, and then it becomes a 'joint effort' (just like i convince my son - it's time to mow the lawn). let's sayyyyyyy- a large phased withdrawal begins in october. do you think this would take the steam right out of obama's campaign? whew... just in time for november.
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07-08-2008, 02:06 PM
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When? I don't remember ever reading that the general Iraqi population was requesting us to come in there back in 03'. I do remember Bush telling us we were trying to help "free" the Iraqi people.
Interesting thought on how this would affect Obama's compaign though. I agree. One of the big reasons for supporting Obama is that he would get our troops out there sooner. If the withdraw is dictated by Iraq themselves, there might not be a big reason for me to consider him anymore.
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07-08-2008, 03:18 PM
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I think they have every right to ask us to leave. If they feel they are ready to govern themselves, then by all means we should let them. We supposedly went in there to 'free' them from Saddam, now they should be free to choose if they still want our help or not. And remember, for the average Iraqi, life under Saddam's rule was better than the aftermath of our invasion.
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07-08-2008, 03:35 PM
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i don't think you could rebuild a country in 2 weeks. not when people are still intent on destroying it further.
i agree that if they want it, they can have it. it's their decision, not ours. it doesn't make it a good decision, but they have that right to f*ck themselves up more if they choose to. it's like a parent that teaches racism and hate to his/her kids. is it good parenting? not in my opinion. but they have that right to be f*cked up parents, and raise f*cked up kids. i personally feel that the u.s. advisors are pushing this to the iraqi government to tell us to get out... that way bush saves face with his decisions about timelines, and can create a new one through the iraqi government, and making it seem that they are not puppets, by actually being a really good puppet. i see this as totally possible.
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07-08-2008, 03:37 PM
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Exactly. At least no more loudly than Cubans clamoring for us to oust Fidel. So should we invade Cuba too? I'd think not. Quote:
That, and his campaign has already opened the door for reversing his stand on full withdrawal... http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/j...op-withdrawal/
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07-08-2008, 03:43 PM
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07-08-2008, 03:47 PM
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+1..there's really no way to spin this story about the no bid oil contracts. I also hate how the 'no bid' theme keeps coming up throughout the Iraq war. Do we really need to keep being reminded of why we went to war in the first place?
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07-08-2008, 04:20 PM
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Just not sure if the Iraqi people are so glad to have us there, why the Prime Minister would demand a pullout time table. Especially when we were apparently do all the work for them.
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07-08-2008, 06:30 PM
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Maliki is simply waiting for the last vestiges of the Mahdi army to be exterminated in Sadr City so he can finally consolidate his power over all factions. We are walling up that city as we speak and after that we will pretty much napalm, bomb, and clean out that entire place wholesale. So why would Maliki need us further? We are simply a means to an end and a waste of American resources and lives for a population that never wanted us there in the first place.
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07-13-2008, 12:28 AM
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+1 life was suck under saddam but the number of suicide bombers weren't as many as nowadays, if any. As for now, the dependency for us troops is being seen as 'lickin us ***' and that's not something that anyone in the government want to be associate with. If they want us to out, why not? It saves us some $$ 
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