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08-17-2008, 05:42 PM
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Russia and Poland ?
Hypothetically, this is the scenerio:
1. US shipments of components begins to land in Poland for installation. 2. Russia amp up the furious warnings to an all time high level of possible attack if US/Poland don't cease installation. 3. US/Poland ignores Russia's repeated threats and continues to install missile components but weeks away from completion. Now I like to hear what people think will be #4 and #5 and so on...War? 
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08-17-2008, 05:49 PM
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#4 Russia invades Iraq
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08-17-2008, 06:04 PM
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Unlikely Russia will eye Iraq.
And i doubt they will deploy missiles in Cuba nor Mehico. I'm thinking #4 would be invasion of Poland before installation is complete OR they will airstrike Warsaw where the missile plateforms are located. But that would mean US is force to come in and deal with the Russia incursion. This would make the Georgian incident as fireworks compare to whats to come if Russia pulls another stunt and attack Poland in anyway.
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08-17-2008, 10:19 PM
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I'm pretty sure that russia won't attack poland. I could be wrong though. I think the most likley outcome is going to be russia agreeing to some kind of arms reduction or some other kind of agreements in exchange for us not building the missle intercept system near them.
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08-17-2008, 10:24 PM
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Polish Missile Crisis - Cuban Missile Crisis II?
Maybe this time they're actually just crazy enough to really blow up the world.
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08-17-2008, 10:41 PM
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Exactly why should Russia be reducing their arms while the US keeps increasing theirs? You bet your *** Russia will bomb/attack Poland & the Chech Republic in this scenario, and its WW3. I really hope none of this goes down, but it is looking more & more likely.
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08-18-2008, 01:39 AM
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08-18-2008, 10:19 AM
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I am not sure what the US or Poland expect here. How would the US react if Russia signed a treaty to install defence missles in let say, Ontario or perhaps northern Mexico.
I think it is time for the US to treat Russia with a bit more respect and to keep in mind it has the largest stockpile of nuclear missles in the world. Russia is just as entitled to it's sphere of influence as America is. Russia has just made a clear point by its actions in Georgia that the Bear is back. It is time to cool things down, not heat them up. The timing of the signing of this treaty with Poland was deliberate, contrary to what Washington is saying. Russia is not Iraq or Iran. They actually have the means to do something about this type of interference on their doorstep. And they will do something about it. What is the motivation here?
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08-18-2008, 10:46 AM
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Am I the only one that finds this a bit hilarious? After the missile crisis you'd think we would have learned about putting missiles in each others back garden, but no... What are the odd Russia will put some defensive lobbers in Cuba? How Bush has the balls to tell Russia to get out of Georgia, whist being in Afghanistan, Iraq, and trying to piut missiles in the Czech repub' and Poland is beyond me... Can anyone spell 'Irony'?
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#12
08-18-2008, 11:26 AM
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Yes there is some irony to it but the fact that Russia attack Georgia because it provoke/baited Georgia into attack the dissidents. And Russia was waiting fully armed around the corner for Georgia to take the bait. There's streaming news of surprising how fast Russia mobilized into Georgia. So i think Russia plan this whole thing.
And the difference between US and Russia is that the US is in Afghan and Iraq because of terrorist threats and a dictator that killed millions. RUssia is in Georgia because it wants to overthrow a pro western state that was once part of USSR. IMO, Russia is getting too biligerant excercising it's muscles like that. Imagine, if you neighbor next door starts attacking your other neighbors, won't the thought cross your mind that when will he attack me? That's what Poland and the other tiny neighbor of Russia is thinking. What more evidence does Poland needs to sign the treaty than Russia invading Georgia all the way to Georgia's capital? I would do exactly what Poland is doing right now, because history has shown that Poland once before was attacked by Russia and Germany in 1939.
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08-18-2008, 01:17 PM
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08-18-2008, 01:23 PM
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Well, this is going to prove to be easy...
1) How did Russia provoke/bait Georgia into attacking? Russia was already armed because that conflict has been going on since 1989. I'm sure they knew exactly what was going to happen. 2) Whilst Saddam was killing millions, the US, UK, etc, were selling him arms, fully aware of what he was doing, this was after the Iran-Iraq war, (remember that whole Oliver North thing, and Nicaragua?). Remember the famous picture of Rumsfeld shaking his hand? So, why are we in Iraq? It's not because of him killing millions... Millions are dead in the Congo, and their ensuing civil war, yet nothing has been done by the west. We could have removed him under the auspices of 'genocide' earlier in the first Gulf War, but we never. We are in Afghanistan because of the Taliban, and some decent links to Terror, however, we soon turned our attention to Iraq when that kicked off, leaving Afghanistan open to the Taliban again. Whilst there is a new government installed, there is still a hell of a lot of work to be done, and the warlords we used against the Taliban still have their opium production. Not overly sure what we achieved. By the way, weren't most of the 9/11 bombers from Saudi Arabia? However, as they are our ally, we couldn't possibly be angry with them. 3) I am in Poland right now. They are in no way scared of a Russian invasion. They are part of the EU, and Russia would have to face the entire European foorces, over a wide area should they invade Poland. To even suggest it shows a little naivity on your part. Yes, Russia was with germany when it invaded, but it was also THE main factor in defeating the Germans. Remember 25 million of them died, compared with the 6 million Jews. A fact often not spoken about. Your assertion that the two little countries are scared of Russian invasion is way off the mark. North Ossetia, and South Ossetia are very strongly linked, and since the collapse of the Soviet Union, there has been a struggle there to join the two, or at least gain independence from Georgia. here's a thought... Maybe if Georgia hadn't killed, and injured those Russian peacekeepers, and killed over a thousand civilians in a city bombardment, the Russians may not have needed to act. However, that does not fall in nicely with the image of the Big Russian Bear, who it seems is destined to once again be the new enemy, after all, the search for terrorists, and Bin Liner isn't going too well. So there we are... getting back to the situation 40 years ago, where the US had missiles in Turkey, and Russia responded with missiles in Cuba... We really don't learn from history.
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#15
08-18-2008, 01:24 PM
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Spot on... Some folks can't help but delve back into their cold war thinking.
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