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#1
08-21-2008, 01:37 PM
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obama supports infanticide?
does anybody know anything about this?
he supports killing of babies if they are aborted late-term, but live??? i get disturbed just thinking about this. i personally can't imagine being the doctor that has to do this.
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08-21-2008, 01:51 PM
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what you mean? explain with more details.
You saying he support babies that are born and right afterward killed? Uh, thats already illegal and is considered murder. I'm pro choice but once a baby is near birth, it's got to live.
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08-21-2008, 01:55 PM
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he's describing late term abortions, after the 2nd trimester. if the abortion isn't successful in killing the fetus, he's claiming obama supports killing the fetus.
can you substantiate this claim?
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08-21-2008, 01:56 PM
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Nice catchy thread title. Yeah, we all support infanticide. We see the starving refugees of Darfur, the murdered in Rwanda, and the victims of AIDS and famine, and we do nothing for the living. And yet, we are wringing our hands worrying about life that could be? Once you question one aspect of life, you have to answer for all of the other permutations that are just as fragile and precious.
Like how about the fact that we have probably put more puppies and kittens to death in this country than all of the Jews that were liquidated during WWII. How about the plight of our poor elderly in the twilight of their lives left to live out miserable ends without dignity in a nursing home focused more on profits than life. It's just one of those inconvenient truths we all decide to shut out of our consciousness, but we all know it's there. Abortion politics is just a cheap cop out.
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08-21-2008, 01:56 PM
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Isn't a failed abortion called "birth"??
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08-21-2008, 01:57 PM
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i guess you're right.
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08-21-2008, 02:01 PM
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i was referring more to state legislation that obama voted against that would've determined if a baby has a constitutional right to live or not.
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08-21-2008, 02:07 PM
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i'm checking his voting record as a state legislator to verify this... anybody else know?
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08-21-2008, 02:07 PM
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How Long Is After The Seconf Trimester? 6 Months?
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08-21-2008, 02:16 PM
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i have no idea...
i was only concerned about a baby that is born alive, and then left to die. this is truly a disturbing topic for me... and i don't wish to explore the realms of abortion. i can't wrap my head around the procedure itself. i'm just curious if obama is going to bring the wishes he had as a state senator to the federal level.
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08-21-2008, 02:16 PM
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I don't know why But this made me LMAO!!!!!
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08-21-2008, 06:08 PM
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Before going further, where is the baby's family in all of this? If they don't want it and have already made a decision to that effect, why are we wasting our collective resources trying to save/support life that isn't even wanted in the first place? We could be using those resources to keep the ones who are wanted, alive or living better. This is where I would disagree with religious notions of what life is and let it be described for what it is. Life that is created from the genetic material from their parents who have not come to full development and is not wanted because of finances, non-interest, or because they have a right to their own reproductive rights. End of story. Unless the churches are willing to adopt them in their care and raise them to full maturity out of their own dime, why waste government resources and legislation on this debate? If the "religious" want to practice their own faith, the existing laws already allow them to do so. So leave everyone else's rights alone. That's all I'm saying on this subject.
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#13
08-21-2008, 06:24 PM
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who cares, kill them if they need to be killed lol..
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08-21-2008, 07:04 PM
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"We're sorry, your abortion failed. Here's your son....Quato"
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08-22-2008, 09:08 AM
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ok. there are two issues to this (as well as abortion - but this isn't the topic).
moral - i don't give a f*ck about a politicians morals... & law - murder is a felony. this is a federal issue. if you murder somebody, you go to prison, for life. is it murder? or not? if it is, the doctors and families have some 'splainin to do. if not, then at what age is it ok to kill our own children... 1 minute? could those prom babies be justifiably killed to prevent an unhappy childhood? where is this line drawn? "nah, throw it back - i asked for a boy!"
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