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Old 08-26-2008, 11:55 AM
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Evolution Of An Entitlement Program

EVOLUTION OF AN ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM

--SS Our Social Security.....
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Franklin Delano. Roosevelt

32nd. President, Democrat

Terms of Office March 4, 1933, to April 12, 1945

Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA)Program.

He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put Into the Program would be deductible from Their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the Independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would Only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and....

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to "Put Away" -- you may be interested in the following:

Dwight David Eisenhower

34th. President, Republican,

Term Of Office: January 20, 1953 to January 20, 1961

Insert by Vincent Peter Render, If I recall correctly, 1958 is the first year that Congress voted to remove funds from Social Security and put it into the General Fund for Congress to spend. If I recall correctly, it was a democratically Controlled Congress. From what I understand, Congress logic at that time was that there was so much money in Social Security Fund that it would never run out / be used up for the purpose it was intended / set aside for.

Lyndon Baines Johnson

36th. President, Democrat

Term Of Office: November 22, 1963 to January 20, 1969

Question: Which Political Party took Social Security from the Independent "Trust Fund" and put it into the General Fund so that Congress could spend it?

Answer: It was Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat, Term Of Office: November 22, 1963 to January 20, 1969) and the democratically Controlled House and Senate. Question: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax Deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding? Answer: The Democratic Party.

William Jefferson Clinton (Bill Clinton)

42nd. President Democrat

Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001

Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.(Al Gore)

45th. Vice President Democrat

Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001

Question: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

Answer: The Democratic Party, with Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Al Gore) [Vice President Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001] casting the "tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US.

James Earl Carter, Jr (Jimmy Carter)

39th. President, Democrat Term of Office: January 20, 1977 to January 20, 1981

Question: Which Political Party decided to start giving Annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE: Answer: That's right! James Earl Carter, Jr. (Jimmy Carter) (Democrat, Term of Office: January 20, 1977 to January 20, 1981) and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away! And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people see this, maybe a seed of Awareness will be planted and maybe changes will Evolve. Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn't so. AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!!! __________________
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.." - Thomas Jefferson
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:42 PM
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Wow, good post, but I thought you were a Dem?

Anywho, what other job can you work for one term and have full retirement? Only this one, why? I guess the stress of making deals, power lunches, chasing young pages and taking kickbacks, just wear on one's mind and body....Jeezes, only in America.
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Informative/enlightening post.
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Wow, good post, but I thought you were a Dem?

Anywho, what other job can you work for one term and have full retirement? Only this one, why? I guess the stress of making deals, power lunches, chasing young pages and taking kickbacks, just wear on one's mind and body....Jeezes, only in America.

Where in the world would you get that idea?
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Great. Where are all the statistics about what the Republicans did to fix it while they held the Presidency and the majority?

Hmm.

Saying that a Democrat really means nothing unless you have the voting statistics from both sides of the aisle to validate the point. Are you trying to sell that the Dems did it all on their own?

Nice spin though.
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^Yeah, what's with all these selective one sided posts? I don't care which side but more realistic balance would be nice for a change.
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Great. Where are all the statistics about what the Republicans did to fix it while they held the Presidency and the majority?

Hmm.

Saying that a Democrat really means nothing unless you have the voting statistics from both sides of the aisle to validate the point. Are you trying to sell that the Dems did it all on their own?

Nice spin though.

Oh come on. You know better than that. We have had a Democrat controlled congress from Roosevelt through the Carter administration.
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Wow, good post, but I thought you were a Dem?

LOL 'scout's like the Anti-Dem
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Wow, good post, but I thought you were a Dem?

how would that change the facts?
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Thank you, Thank you, I'll be signing autographs in the lobby....
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Great. Where are all the statistics about what the Republicans did to fix it while they held the Presidency and the majority?

Hmm.

Saying that a Democrat really means nothing unless you have the voting statistics from both sides of the aisle to validate the point. Are you trying to sell that the Dems did it all on their own?

Nice spin though.
ok, mr. fairness doctrine.
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Great. Where are all the statistics about what the Republicans did to fix it while they held the Presidency and the majority?

Hmm.

Saying that a Democrat really means nothing unless you have the voting statistics from both sides of the aisle to validate the point. Are you trying to sell that the Dems did it all on their own?

Nice spin though.

Went and did a little checking and the Republicans didn't have a majority until the 104th congress when both houses had Republican majorities.

Source: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

Digging up the actual roll call vote, will take some time.
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Mr. Snopes straightens this out. As with most stuff on the internet, some is true and some is not. But there is enough BS to go around.




http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/sschanges.asp
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Went and did a little checking and the Republicans didn't have a majority until the 104th congress when both houses had Republican majorities.

Source: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

Digging up the actual roll call vote, will take some time.


And their blinding corrective action for this communist conspiracy democratic plot was what?

You get my point.
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And their blinding corrective action for this communist conspiracy democratic plot was what?

You get my point.

You can fix it if you can't get it passed and to the presidents desk. Finally we had the "SS solvency act" passed a couple of years ago By REPUBLICANS.
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