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[LiquidGx]

Originally Posted by Wickster

Slay, this is way off topic but you seem to know quite a bit about the bible and it's teachings yet you say you don't believe in God, why is that? Also, from what I have gathered from what you have written in the past is that you are of a Latin decent. Almost every Latin that I know was raised with heavy Catholic influence, were you? If you were raised in a religious home, what changed your mind about religion?

This is getting way off topic, but I was also brought up in the Catholic church. What has turned me off is the church's stance on topics like birth control, abortion, etc. They mask their intentions as saving a life but appears to be more geared at growing their base and subsequently income. To be perfectly honest, anymore I see all organized religion as a giant pyramid scheme.

[jaspergtr]

Originally Posted by LiquidGx

This is getting way off topic, but I was also brought up in the Catholic church. What has turned me off is the church's stance on topics like birth control, abortion, etc. They mask their intentions as saving a life but appears to be more geared at growing their base and subsequently income. To be perfectly honest, anymore I see all organized religion as a giant pyramid scheme.

lol! Nice.

Be fruitful and multiply. So I can get 10% of their income as well.

[slaytan213]

Originally Posted by Wickster

Slay, this is way off topic but you seem to know quite a bit about the bible and it's teachings yet you say you don't believe in God, why is that? Also, from what I have gathered from what you have written in the past is that you are of a Latin decent. Almost every Latin that I know was raised with heavy Catholic influence, were you? If you were raised in a religious home, what changed your mind about religion?

I was born into a deeply religious Roman Catholic family; I went through the indoctrination process...er...um..."sacraments" up until confirmation. I was top of the class at catechism, but remained skeptical of what I was being taught. No one had good a good enough answer to a lot of my questions like if there was any evidence whatsoever that God/Jesus existed outside of the bible. I was just told I had to believe or suffer the (unconfirmed) consequences. All that, coupled with the crazy whacked out things people do in the name of God, spelled the end to my religious associations as well as faith in a creator.

The best argument against the bible is the bible itself. If I'm to make my case that God either doesn't exist or does not subscribe to any religion, I have to know what I'm talking about. That's why I laugh whenever a Christian says "if you read the bible, you'd understand"

[SIR NUPE A LOT]

Originally Posted by jaspergtr

lol! Nice.

Be fruitful and multiply. So I can get 10% of their income as well.

Eventhough I still believe that Jesus is my savior.....this was funny to me! Again, don't hate the religion, hate those that taint it!

[Wickster]

Originally Posted by slaytan213

I was born into a deeply religious Roman Catholic family; I went through the indoctrination process...er...um..."sacraments" up until confirmation. I was top of the class at catechism, but remained skeptical of what I was being taught. No one had good a good enough answer to a lot of my questions like if there was any evidence whatsoever that God/Jesus existed outside of the bible. I was just told I had to believe or suffer the (unconfirmed) consequences. All that, coupled with the crazy whacked out things people do in the name of God, spelled the end to my religious associations as well as faith in a creator.

The best argument against the bible is the bible itself. If I'm to make my case that God either doesn't exist or does not subscribe to any religion, I have to know what I'm talking about. That's why I laugh whenever a Christian says "if you read the bible, you'd understand"

Thanks, I was just curious.....and for you other guys too. As Liquid said though, why is the church against birth control if you can barely feed yourself? But that's for another thread.

[Wickster]

Originally Posted by SIR NUPE A LOT

Eventhough I still believe that Jesus is my savior.....this was funny to me! Again, don't hate the religion, hate those that taint it!

I can agree with that.

Enough, let's get back to debatin' and hatin'.

[SIR NUPE A LOT]

^damn skippy!

[jaspergtr]

Originally Posted by Wickster

Thanks, I was just curious.....and for you other guys too. As Liquid said though, why is the church against birth control if you can barely feed yourself? But that's for another thread.

The church would also hold the morality to teach accountability and responsibility to avoid the hungry to bring in more children into the world that they cannot sustain.

I know that if I can't afford a child - don't have one. That has nothing to do with abortion.

Where is this 'other thread' you speak of.

[Wickster]

Originally Posted by jaspergtr

Where is this 'other thread' you speak of.

We will have to start one if you like.

[jaspergtr]

Originally Posted by Wickster

We will have to start one if you like.

I was heavily implying....

I'm always down for some religion topics.