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Old 11-18-2009, 08:13 PM
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Dah.....you really are tool . To bad you dont fit with the rest of the set .

If you werent any where near it and only saw it on TV like the rest of us.....yes !

If you saw it with your own eyes....no! of course not .

It has nothing to do with holding trials for terrorist and giving them the same rites as you and I . You know it and are just trying to take away from the fact the majority of people feel the same way I do and you are the minority but feel you are right .
G-Rider, where's that backpedaling image you had?

You can't speak for anyone who lost friends, families, or jobs. Don't assume that just because you find two or three people who share YOUR belief, it means the majority do. Don't say all of the US was there, because they weren't.

This is about justice and the delivery of it. That's what everyone wants. In this country, we have a process for delivering justice. To circumvent that process would be to deny yourself the very same liberty that makes this country great; when it gets to that point, then the terrorists have won.
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here you go...


booger youve proven your lack of understanding/comprehension...
over and over.. in this and many other threads ....

so i dont expect you to understand what it was like here during and after the attacks and till this day ..
the way you feel being in the mid west somewhere .. is not the same way we feel here in n.y.
..i dont expect you to understand why we want to see justice here in n.y. ....
& not in some other state ...

but what urks the crap out of me is:

you & people that think like you are turning this prosecution
of "THE MASTERMIND" of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on N.Y.

into a joke ..

and taking the focus off the prosecution of a terrorist..
and turning it into issues about cost and how n.y.will be a bigger target
and obama & co being wrong for bringing the trial here ..

if there were ever a time to spend money to show the world we can be a fair country
and prove beyond a doubt his guilt, as well as give us as new yorkers some kind of closure...

THIS IS IT...
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G-Rider, where's that backpedaling image you had?

You can't speak for anyone who lost friends, families, or jobs. Don't assume that just because you find two or three people who share YOUR belief, it means the majority do. Don't say all of the US was there, because they weren't.

This is about justice and the delivery of it. That's what everyone wants. In this country, we have a process for delivering justice. To circumvent that process would be to deny yourself the very same liberty that makes this country great; when it gets to that point, then the terrorists have won.
You didnt read the article I posted where 51% of america DONT want the trials to be held in civil court and 29% say its ok .

When you give them the same rites as Americans have ...thats when they win . They dont give a rats azz if they die . They want the lime light , they want to be a martyr and you give them that in a civil court . You are to blind following Obama to see that far in front of your face .



You and anyone else that thinks its ok to do it.......you just keep fooling your self and keep on thinking you think like the majority of the people . All of you look the fool every time you do it .

Talk about not being in touch with the American people . Thsi adm. and its blind followers are as far off into space as you can get . They will feel it come election time
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/beh...nd-the-numbers

This says the split is even.

The use of a military trial would be the exception and not the rule despite what a poll of Americans what. We were not at war at the time, they guys were not part of any organized miltary institution belonging to any particular country.

Not putting these idiots in civilian courts would be a travesty upon what this country was founded on. Not the other way around.
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/beh...nd-the-numbers

This says the split is even.

The use of a military trial would be the exception and not the rule despite what a poll of Americans what. We were not at war at the time, they guys were not part of any organized miltary institution belonging to any particular country.

Not putting these idiots in civilian courts would be a travesty upon what this country was founded on. Not the other way around.
Find a non biased poll please ! The Washington Post is by far one of the most liberal rags out there .

Your opinion is the minority and out of touch with what main stream America thinks .
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Right I forgot. Any poll that you don't agree with = biased. Anytime you want to address the meat of the post, feel free.
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Oh speaking of biased polls. Damn that FOX, freakin' biased.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tary-tribunal/

When rational people look at the real numbers, it ain't even close to whatever poll you sourced.
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This is the correct decision. To do otherwise would be an admission that the US legal system is incapable of fairly bringing to trial a mass murderer in the guise of a terrorist.

Military trials, by their nature, are most often seen as being biased. The last thing that America needs is to have Mohammed tried behind closed doors and where the defence material is largely restricted by the evidence it can use.

Of course this entire tribunal/civilian court debate would be unnecessary if former President Bush had simply abided by the Geneva Convention in the first place.
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everytime i heard fighter jets i cringed and looked up at the sky ...
hearing them scream by was really scary ..


at the risk of getting another copy and pasted quote from some news article ...

i ask booger ..
what do you think should be done in this situation?? and why ??

p.s. i dont know who they called in that poll .. but i never got a call and neither did anyone in my family ..
weve had the same home # for over 25 yrs ..


O'Really ! ^^^^^
Hmmm ..do you remember a thread from when Obama's jet flew over NY ? I didnt think so !
You and Sly were defending the fly over by Obama and crew as good little Obama guard doggies do . Here I provide a link for you .

The Government's Rotten Explanation For Terrorizing NYC

Hmmm...your first post
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WHAT A BUNCH OF PANSIES ..

BlTCHIN AND MOANIN ABOUT A FLY BY ..

BIG DEAL!!!

IT SUCKS .....IT HAPPENED .... GET OVER IT ....
And here is one of Slays posts

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When I was in high school, we threw a hollowed out grenade at a one of our teachers who was a Vietnam vet. That was the first time I've ever seen a school teacher cry.
Where was the post on how scared you were that the plane flew over and made you think of 9-11 ?

You two are the biggest hypocrites Ive seen on this site...LMAO !


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Oh speaking of biased polls. Damn that FOX, freakin' biased.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tary-tribunal/

When rational people look at the real numbers, it ain't even close to whatever poll you sourced.
Sorry oh wise one , I got the poll I used from Rasmussen [ or what ever it names is ] SO it looks as if fox's poll was alot closer than your biased poll from the Post . Which probably was taken from their web site by people that visited the site......ummm would that be mostly liberals that visit that site ? lmao !

And Slay and Im-a-G-whatever

Look at this police forum , try putting your arguement in front of them !

http://forums.officer.com/forums/sho....php?p=2081700
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O'Really ! ^^^^^
Hmmm ..do you remember a thread from when Obama's jet flew over NY ? I didnt think so !
You and Sly were defending the fly over by Obama and crew as good little Obama guard doggies do . Here I provide a link for you .

The Government's Rotten Explanation For Terrorizing NYC

Hmmm...your first post


And here is one of Slays posts



Where was the post on how scared you were that the plane flew over and made you think of 9-11 ?

You two are the biggest hypocrites Ive seen on this site...LMAO !


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Sorry oh wise one , I got the poll I used from Rasmussen [ or what ever it names is ] SO it looks as if fox's poll was alot closer than your biased poll from the Post . Which probably was taken from their web site by people that visited the site......ummm would that be mostly liberals that visit that site ? lmao !

And Slay and Im-a-G-whatever

Look at this police forum , try putting your arguement in front of them !

http://forums.officer.com/forums/sho....php?p=2081700
You're going to try and use a childish prank I played in high school against me to try and prove what now? It still doesn't change the fact that we have a constitution; it still doesn't change the fact that we have laws that we have to live and abide by.

As for using public opinion as a gauge; as BigC stated in your other thread, that's nothing more than mob rules. These cops are thinking with their hearts and not following the rule of law which this country is based on. I don't blame them for thinking that way, but rationally, it's not the right move.
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Childish prank ????

oh please !

but rationally ? its not the right move ?

You guys are in a world of your own . No where near what normal people of the U.S. think or feel .
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Childish prank ????

oh please !

but rationally ? its not the right move ?

You guys are in a world of your own . No where near what normal people of the U.S. think or feel .
You're essentially saying that anyone caught red handed or confesses to a crime should not be given a trial.

I wonder if you'd sing the same tune if/when GWB and Cheney get arrested for war crimes.
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You're essentially saying that anyone caught red handed or confesses to a crime should not be given a trial.

I wonder if you'd sing the same tune if/when GWB and Cheney get arrested for war crimes.
How in the fck did you get that idea ? lMAO

I said they should be tried in military court . Where they DONT HAVE THE SAME RITES as you and I do in civil courts . They dont deserve the same rites

GET IT ?
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