im lowering over an inch, do i need a toe kit?

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Old 02-14-2007, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rphillips6487
^^fair enough

I havent ordered m 350evo a-arms (front camber) yet

should I go with spc or cusco instead?

I plan on dropping right ober the wheels (19" infiniti sport rims)
screw cusco
 
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Old 02-14-2007, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by aHero4Eternity
screw cusco
Hahaha finally!
 
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:05 PM
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What did your guys' shops charge to install SPC's w/ springs?
expect to pay ~150-200 for springs and ~75-125 for spc
 
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:12 PM
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we are at $99.50 a side for the rears right now, or $199 Free shipping.
 
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we are at $99.50 a side for the rears right now, or $199 Free shipping.
i should have bought mine from you guys. unfortunately, us chinese like to pay cash
 
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:42 PM
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FYI, AJUSA.com sells the eibach ie SPC rear kit for $143.01 shipped, best price I've seen and its where I ordered mine from
 
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Old 02-14-2007, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jtrain
What did your guys' shops charge to install SPC's w/ springs?
F/R looking at around 3hrs shop time for camber/toe job
 
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:36 PM
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Im not a fan of the flimsy design of the cusco although others may disagree. Its around the same price and I have been using SPC for over 5 years for racing and have never broke, etc. Its a great product and the company is great to deal with. thats why we are the Midwest Master Distributor of SPC

Eddie

price for spc front cambers and rear cambers w/ toe bolts shipped to 03110?
 
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i guess what i'm saying is that there should not be very much affect on toe from a drop. most cars will need an alignment afterwards anyway. toe should be adjusted to factory specs and not adjusted for handling characteristics (caster also) based on safety reasons. let me know if i am wrong, but the only adjustment that does not dramatically affect the driveabilty and safety is camber.
 
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by speedracerg35
i guess what i'm saying is that there should not be very much affect on toe from a drop. most cars will need an alignment afterwards anyway. toe should be adjusted to factory specs and not adjusted for handling characteristics (caster also) based on safety reasons. let me know if i am wrong, but the only adjustment that does not dramatically affect the driveabilty and safety is camber.
Toe changes significantly with an increase in camber from a drop, so it has to be adjusted back to specs, when you said "you should never mess with toe or caster" that would include for adjustments etc, so your line of thinking based on your first statement is wrong, that is why we questioned what you said
 
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:19 PM
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great, thanks guys... you have been a great deal of help.
 
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by speedracerg35
i guess what i'm saying is that there should not be very much affect on toe from a drop. most cars will need an alignment afterwards anyway. toe should be adjusted to factory specs and not adjusted for handling characteristics (caster also) based on safety reasons. let me know if i am wrong, but the only adjustment that does not dramatically affect the driveabilty and safety is camber.
Toe and Camber are the most important with regards to handling and steering acuteness. Caster (thrust angle) is also important for correcting cornering (over/understeer) as well, however it rarely changes enough to require adjustment when lowering.

Additionally, you cannot center the steering wheel without Toe adjustments affecting as well, to compensate for crown in the roads you drive.

Now - adjusting for handling and performance - that's what it's all about, with an eye as well on tire wear and longevity. The alignment for a person who frequently drives canyons vs freeway and surface street, is much different, and will affect tire wear, traction, handling and comfort overall.

A GREAT alignment shop will interview you and verify your driving style and adjust accordingly...whether factory spec is appropriate or not. They should also account for you in the drivers seat, and or passengers/equipment, if there are any more than 50% of your driving time. They do this by adding sand bags/weights to the appropriate areas of the car interior/trunk.

YES - camber and toe can and will change when you site in your car and make the weight ratios off kilter.

Anyways...more info..hope it helps.

rick
 

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My car is dropped on 350 Z H Techs. I was not able to get the rears nor the fronts back into spec so I bought the spc rear camber kit. The fronts were one side -1.4 and the other like -1.9, toe and caster was fine. What my alignment fuy did was bend my rear left camber arm a bit in order to try to get the camber back into spec and ever since the car has some funny feelings when going over uneven areas on the highway. Can this be cuz of the bent arm? I am replacing it anyway, but just wondering, and toe was not great either.
 
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:08 PM
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By the way, I know the front right might have some uneven wear on the left side, but i am OK with that. Can the front settings also affect handling at the point where I can feel it or not?
 
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so in all.. if i just get the lowering springs i will need to also get the SPC Front Camber/Caster Arms kit? is that all i need?
 


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