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Detailed Image 05-23-2008 11:47 AM

Sealant & Wax Product Recommendations for Infiniti Paints
 
Shane (Garnet Canuck) PM'd me about putting together a thread about the various products we offer along with which colors they would work best with. I think this is a great idea because I often get asked, "Which sealant and wax do you recommend for my color G". Selecting the appropriate product can be overwhelming when there is so many options out there. This will give everyone a quick reference on what I feel works best on their paint based on my personal experience. I'm pulling the colors from the Infiniti website, so if I've missed any previous year colors, please let me know and I'll be sure to update them.

Quick Listing of Sealant Recommendations:
Chemical Guys Jet Seal 109
- Garnet Ember
- Lakeshore Slate
- Black Obsidian
- Liquid Platinum
- Platinum Graphite
- Blue Slate
- Desert Platinum
- Ivory Pearl

Chemical Guys M-Seal Sealant:
- Lakeshore Slate
- Liquid Platinum
- Desert Platinum
- Ivory Pearl

Menzerna Full Molecular Jacket:
- Garnet Ember
- Lakeshore Slate
- Black Obsidian
- Liquid Platinum
- Platinum Graphite
- Blue Slate
- Desert Platinum
- Ivory Pearl

Poorboy's World EX Sealant:
- Garnet Ember
- Black Obsidian
- Platinum Graphite
- Blue Slate

Poorboy's World EX-P Sealant:
- Lakeshore Slate
- Liquid Platinum
- Desert Platinum
- Ivory Pearl

Blackfire Wet Diamond Sealant:
- Garnet Ember
- Black Obsidian
- Platinum Graphite
- Blue Slate

Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze:
- Lakeshore Slate
- Liquid Platinum
- Desert Platinum
- Ivory Pearl

Quick Listing of Wax Recommendations:
Chemical Guys 50/50 Limited Series Carnauba Wax:
Best used over Chemical Guys Jet Seal 109 or M-Seal
- Garnet Ember
- Lakeshore Slate
- Black Obsidian
- Liquid Platinum
- Platinum Graphite
- Blue Slate
- Desert Platinum
- Ivory Pearl

Chemical Guys Pete's '53 Paste Wax:
Best used over Chemical Guys Jet Seal 109 or M-Seal
- Garnet Ember
- Black Obsidian
- Platinum Graphite
- Blue Slate

Midnight Sun Carnauba Paste Wax:
Best used over Blackfire Wet Diamond Sealant
- Garnet Ember
- Black Obsidian
- Platinum Graphite
- Blue Slate

Pinnacle Souveran Paste Wax:
Best used over Jet Seal 109 or Menzerna FMJ
- Garnet Ember
- Black Obsidian
- Platinum Graphite
- Blue Slate

P21S Concours Carnauba Wax:
Best used over Poorboy's EX-P, Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze, Menzerna FMJ
- Lakeshore Slate
- Liquid Platinum
- Desert Platinum
- Ivory Pearl

P21S 100% Carnauba Wax:

- Garnet Ember
- Lakeshore Slate
- Black Obsidian
- Liquid Platinum
- Platinum Graphite
- Blue Slate
- Desert Platinum
- Ivory Pearl

Poorboy's World Natty's Blue Paste Wax:
Best used over Poorboy's EX-P or EX Sealants
- Garnet Ember
- Black Obsidian
- Platinum Graphite
- Blue Slate

If you notice, I pretty much broke it down into lighter colors and darker colors. Certain products will yield better results on specific types of paint, whether it's a flat color, metallic paint, light or dark. I'd like to emphasize that prep work (wash, clay, polish) is where 90% or more of the results are derived from, not the end product selection. However assuming the paint is prepped as best as possible, the sealant and waxes can enhance the finish even further. Some colors are tough to classify as well, like Platinum Graphite. I figure this is a pretty good starting point.

I'll try to put together some pictures of details our customers performed and try to give a brief explanation of my thoughts on the products.

http://www.detailedimage.com/pics/pr...tSeal109-S.gif
Chemical Guys Jet Seal 109 Sealant - This is one of our newer sealants and is making waves in the auto detailing industry. This product is very easy to apply and remove, offers some great durability and has a sharp, clear, reflective look to it. At $2.50 / ounce it's a little pricier than other sealants, but to many, the results are worth it.

Here's a picture of Jet Seal 109 on a black G37 posted on MyG37.com.
http://www.detailedimage.com/pics/cu...JetSeal109.jpg
http://www.detailedimage.com/pics/cu...tSeal109-1.jpg

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blueboxer 05-23-2008 12:02 PM

Any chance of getting some group buys so we can take a swing at the new P21S 100% or CG's 50/50? :)

Garnet Canuck 05-23-2008 02:07 PM

That's exactly what I had in mind George, thanks so much for putting this together. :biggthumpup:

redlude97 05-23-2008 02:46 PM

Why no diamond graphite =(

Swivel 05-23-2008 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by redlude97
Why no diamond graphite =(

Nor Emerald Mist? I'll just go with 'works for dark colours' but it is a bit of a unique colour since it is quite metallic.

EDIT: That sounded ungrateful, it wasn't meant to be. Honestly appreciate the list! :biggthumpup:

redlude97 05-23-2008 03:17 PM

Lol, i was just kidding, DG and platinum graphite a pretty similar, and I already have a pretty good understanding of sealant choices for colors. This list is great for noobs to the detailing world though, good job George and Shane!

Detailed Image 05-23-2008 03:18 PM

No worries, I just pulled the colors off of the Infiniti paint options from the website. I'll be tweaking and adding to the list over the weekend. Does anyone know specifically which paints were metallic or not? I can do some fine tuning based off of that as well, the website didn't really indicate anything.

Thanks for the feedback so far.

George

Garnet Canuck 05-23-2008 04:45 PM

George, here is what I know of off the top of my head regarding the 07/08 Sedans. Some of the colors are the same for previous years as well.

Garnet Ember, 3 stage pearl
Lakeshore Slate, Metallic
Serengeti Sand, 3 stage metallic
Black Obsidian, 2 stage solid
Twilight Blue, 2 stage pearl
Platinum Ice/Platinum Graphite, Metallic
Diamond Graphite, Metallic
Ivory Pearl, 3 stage pearl
Blue Onyx/Blue Slate, Pearl metallic

blueboxer 05-23-2008 11:09 PM

Nice list, I totally agree with the P21S 100% Carnauba being great for light colored cars and metallics. It is the only wax that really made my white pearl pop the way I wanted. However Natty's Blue Paste Wax offered a very similiar look on darker vehicles after the second coat was applied. Definately a cost effective wax for darker cars. Good post and great guy to deal with. :)

P21S 100% Carnauba
http://www.detailedimage.com/pics/products/P2-CCW-M.gif

Natty's Blue Paste Wax
http://www.detailedimage.com/pics/pr...PW-NBlue-M.gif

Scrooge 05-24-2008 12:20 AM

I like Collinite 845, OCW v2 and Duragloss 111 on Diamond graphite.

BALLINassG35 05-26-2008 12:00 AM

Thanks for the helpful info George! +1 for the Natty's paste wax! 2 coats on my OB G35 and it SHINES.

RPF 05-29-2008 04:50 PM

George,

Thanks for the recommendations! I have a couple of questions on some products for my OB G37:

I'd like to use the CG Jetseal 109 sealant, but the waxes that you recommend to use with this sealant are quite expensive ($54/$69). Have you tried the Natty's blue over this sealant? At $19 and with everyone saying that it works great on black, I'd like to try this wax before having to move up to the more expensive CG waxes.

My car came with a ton of hologramming courtesy of the dealer's not-so-great prep team. Since delivery, I got a bird bomb that caused some slight etching on the hood. Would the Menzerna PO106ff polisb be strong enough to handle these issues or would there be a stronger polish that you would recommend to handle these before finishing with the 106ff?

I'd be applying the liquid products with a dual-action polisher that I received as a present a few years ago. It was from Griots Garage and uses a Porter Cable 97366 motor assembly with a velcro backing plate of just under 6" in diameter. I still have a few unused "red" wax pads and "orange" polishing pads from them. Could I use these with the sealants/polishes I mentioned or do you have some other recommendations on pads that would work better with this buffer and these products?

Thanks!

blueboxer 05-29-2008 06:14 PM

The Menzerna PO106ff will work perfectly with the orange pad for some decent cutting pad for the heavier swirling, you can also switch to a white pad for a second coat with less cutting power or a finishing polish with the white pad. Use the finishing pads to apply a glaze or sealant. I just used the Natty's over the FMJ and was pleased with the results. It took the second coat to get me there, but the shine is great and the application and removal was fairly easy. I still prefer the P21S, but as a lot of others have said, it's durability is a weakness.


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