Mobil 1 Oil users
#226
12-17-2008, 11:15 AM
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#227
12-17-2008, 11:31 AM
Originally Posted by SetoJai
I like this thread. Time sure goes by fast when you are reading and absorbing so much information. >.<
Which synthetic oils do you guys recommend for temperatures between -28 in the winter to +32 in the summer? I hate the Calgary weather, it flutuates so frequently.
Which synthetic oils do you guys recommend for temperatures between -28 in the winter to +32 in the summer? I hate the Calgary weather, it flutuates so frequently.
#228
12-17-2008, 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by releasedtruth
I'll have a Blackstone on 5W-30 Mobil EP shortly and I'll post the results. I've been using it on both Nissans for years now (since available of course, supersyn previous) and when the results come back we'll see how things do here in Tucson (Maxima will be nearly 8.5k on oil)
Since the results of the oil analysis would only be for your car, with the way you drive, within the environment/region you are in only, with the type of driving you do, with the air filter brand that you use in the car, with the oil filter brand you use in the car, with the fuel type/brand you use and with possibly the fuel/oil additives you use, then of what benefit is the oil analysis test results from your car to anyone else's car?
Last edited by HiTechOilCo; 01-04-2009 at 10:11 PM.
#229
12-27-2008, 02:23 PM
#232
12-29-2008, 06:20 PM
That is not a myth, it's true that Mobil 1 is not a sythentic in terms of how it was forumalated before. They now use dino base stocks with additives. But due to new definitions of how synthetics are called, they can still state it to be synthetic. Penzoil Plat is the same way. But are quality oils though. Have been putting down good oil analysis test results.
#233
12-29-2008, 06:47 PM
That is not a myth, it's true that Mobil 1 is not a sythentic in terms of how it was forumalated before. They now use dino base stocks with additives. But due to new definitions of how synthetics are called, they can still state it to be synthetic. Penzoil Plat is the same way. But are quality oils though. Have been putting down good oil analysis test results.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...Qs.aspx#FAQs21
Mobil oil begs to differ. Their materials are fully synthetic not the dino base you claim.
Seriously, stop spreading these rumors.
Is Mobil 1 with SuperSyn Technology a fully synthetic motor oil?
Yes, it is. To meet the demanding requirements of today's specifications (and our customers' expectations), Mobil 1 with SuperSyn uses high-performance fluids, including polyalphaolefins (PAOs), along with a proprietary system of additives. Each Mobil 1 with SuperSyn viscosity grade uses a unique combination of synthetic fluids and selected additives in order to tailor the viscosity grade to its specific application.
Yes, it is. To meet the demanding requirements of today's specifications (and our customers' expectations), Mobil 1 with SuperSyn uses high-performance fluids, including polyalphaolefins (PAOs), along with a proprietary system of additives. Each Mobil 1 with SuperSyn viscosity grade uses a unique combination of synthetic fluids and selected additives in order to tailor the viscosity grade to its specific application.
#234
12-29-2008, 06:54 PM
Uh no. That proves nothing. Did you notice the ORDER of ingredients? You understand the ingredient list is indeed ordered from biggest - smallest. Exactly what is this main ingredient "high performance fluids"??????? Just because there are PAOs, doesn't mean it makes up a significant amount of it's content.
Seriously, you need to read up more on this BEFORE you make such a claim. I've EMAILED a Mobil 1 tech adviser and have posted his reply CONFIRMING my suspicions about Mobil NOT being a true synthetic like Mobil 0-40 seem to still use (along with Amsoil and European Castrol synthetic).
Seriously, you need to read up more on this BEFORE you make such a claim. I've EMAILED a Mobil 1 tech adviser and have posted his reply CONFIRMING my suspicions about Mobil NOT being a true synthetic like Mobil 0-40 seem to still use (along with Amsoil and European Castrol synthetic).
#236
12-29-2008, 07:49 PM
https://g35driver.com/forums/1981095-post103.html
Direct quote from Mobil 1 about the make up of their oil Civic. Let me know what you have found to contradict this.
Direct quote from Mobil 1 about the make up of their oil Civic. Let me know what you have found to contradict this.
#237
12-30-2008, 12:21 AM
^ nowhere in that post does the individual state that they use dino base oil and that it is a blend.
again I'll quote the guy from Mobil 1 that you reference:
This cracks me up that you read "blend" into what that tech said even though nowhere does he state that they blend synthetics that they make with dino base oil... According to what he said they use high performance synthetic fluids which includes those PAOs and additives.
Again, stop spreading these false rumors. Please feel free to point out where in that quote you're lead to believe that a dino base oil is blended with their synthetic product?
Hilarious...
again I'll quote the guy from Mobil 1 that you reference:
Thank you for your inquiry,
To meet the demanding requirements of today's
specifications (and our customers' expectations) Mobil 1 uses
high-performance synthetic fluids, including polyalphaolefins
(PAO, groupIV), along
with a proprietary system of additives. In fact, each Mobil 1
viscosity
grade uses a specific combination of synthetic fluids and
selected
additives in order to tailor the viscosity grade to its unique
requirement.
--
Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at
1-800-ASK-MOBIL
-Matt Jacob
To meet the demanding requirements of today's
specifications (and our customers' expectations) Mobil 1 uses
high-performance synthetic fluids, including polyalphaolefins
(PAO, groupIV), along
with a proprietary system of additives. In fact, each Mobil 1
viscosity
grade uses a specific combination of synthetic fluids and
selected
additives in order to tailor the viscosity grade to its unique
requirement.
--
Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at
1-800-ASK-MOBIL
-Matt Jacob
Again, stop spreading these false rumors. Please feel free to point out where in that quote you're lead to believe that a dino base oil is blended with their synthetic product?
Hilarious...
#238
12-30-2008, 12:25 AM
^ Oh God-almighty I realize that it was you who was ranting in that thread with the post you linked. Please disregard anything I said about your make-believe claims. I don't have the time nor the patience to deal with you if that is how you will approach this topic.
I've got better things to do than have a discussion with the ranter from that thread.
Unsubscribing.
I've got better things to do than have a discussion with the ranter from that thread.
Unsubscribing.
#239
12-30-2008, 01:23 AM
^ nowhere in that post does the individual state that they use dino base oil and that it is a blend.
again I'll quote the guy from Mobil 1 that you reference:
This cracks me up that you read "blend" into what that tech said even though nowhere does he state that they blend synthetics that they make with dino base oil... According to what he said they use high performance synthetic fluids which includes those PAOs and additives.
Again, stop spreading these false rumors. Please feel free to point out where in that quote you're lead to believe that a dino base oil is blended with their synthetic product?
Hilarious...
again I'll quote the guy from Mobil 1 that you reference:
This cracks me up that you read "blend" into what that tech said even though nowhere does he state that they blend synthetics that they make with dino base oil... According to what he said they use high performance synthetic fluids which includes those PAOs and additives.
Again, stop spreading these false rumors. Please feel free to point out where in that quote you're lead to believe that a dino base oil is blended with their synthetic product?
Hilarious...
If it's not a blend, then why are these "synthetics" mixed in with PAOs? How could it NOT be a blend of some sort.
Again, you need to read the 1st post in this thread along with the BITOG threads that analyze the oil and find it not be Group IV based.
Let me know when you're done. I'll wait.
BTW I guess you are calling Relude97 a liar also. Since he agrees with my view. 
#240
12-30-2008, 01:37 AM
I have been in several threads disccusing oil so I felt I needed to make a post for M1 users. I am not bashing M1 just hoping to educate my fellow VQ people.
After I started to track my car, I began looking into information about the best oil to use. During my research I found several examples of M1 showing high lead content (bearing wear) in used oil analysis on Vq35 engines.
I know M1 is considered to be the best oil, but it never was a good oil for the Vq35 engine. Another reason to not use M1 would be that it is no longer a true synthetic. Several months ago they changed their formula.
Mobile1 is no longer a true synthetic
Mobil sued Castrol for calling their oil a full synthetic. Which according to Mobil it wasnt a full synthetic like M1 since its not made from a Group IV base stock.
They lost the case, so they decided to start using the cheaper base stock just like Castrol,pennzoil etc. Why make a real synthetic that costs you more money to make then the competition who is charging the same price for their fake synthetic?
German Castrol Syntec 0w-30, Amsoil, redline are some of the few remaining TRUE synthetics( Group IV). The other Castrol syntecs, penzzoil platinum and now Mobile 1 are not TRUE synthetics. They are hydrolocked Group III oils.
Here is an example of how even yellow bottled Pennzoil Dino outperformed M1 in our engine.
M1 used to be a great oil, now its an overpriced fake synthetic. My current fill is German Castrol Syntec 0w-30 (auto-zone only). Unlike the other castrol syntecs it is a true Group IV oil, here is an oil analysis on a G35 coupe. As you can see this oil shows very little wear after 7500 miles.
Element This Last 2nd to Last Universal
Sample Sample Sample Averages
Aluminum 2 1 2 3
Chromium 0 0 0 1
Iron 5 2 7 11
Copper 5 3 6 7
Lead 2 1 3 5
Tin 0 0 1 1
Moly 4 3 1 75
Nickel 0 0 0 0
Manganese 0 0 1 0
Silver 0 0 0 0
Titanium 0 0 0 0
Potassium 1 0 7 1
Boron 0 1 1 64
Silicon 8 7 9 11
Sodium 9 8 1 7
Calcium 2643 2504 2520 2296
Magnesium 106 111 103 115
Phosphorus 687 660 635 705
Zinc 857 762 789 840
Barium 0 0 0 0
- - -
TBN 2.6
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Test : Vis Flash Fuel AFZ H2O INSOL
@210F Deg F % % % %
.
Shd Be: 58-65 >385 <2.0 0 <0.1 <0.6
.
This: 61.9 415 <0.5 0.0 0 0.3
Sampl
.
After I started to track my car, I began looking into information about the best oil to use. During my research I found several examples of M1 showing high lead content (bearing wear) in used oil analysis on Vq35 engines.
I know M1 is considered to be the best oil, but it never was a good oil for the Vq35 engine. Another reason to not use M1 would be that it is no longer a true synthetic. Several months ago they changed their formula.
Mobile1 is no longer a true synthetic
Mobil sued Castrol for calling their oil a full synthetic. Which according to Mobil it wasnt a full synthetic like M1 since its not made from a Group IV base stock.
They lost the case, so they decided to start using the cheaper base stock just like Castrol,pennzoil etc. Why make a real synthetic that costs you more money to make then the competition who is charging the same price for their fake synthetic?
German Castrol Syntec 0w-30, Amsoil, redline are some of the few remaining TRUE synthetics( Group IV). The other Castrol syntecs, penzzoil platinum and now Mobile 1 are not TRUE synthetics. They are hydrolocked Group III oils.
Here is an example of how even yellow bottled Pennzoil Dino outperformed M1 in our engine.
M1 used to be a great oil, now its an overpriced fake synthetic. My current fill is German Castrol Syntec 0w-30 (auto-zone only). Unlike the other castrol syntecs it is a true Group IV oil, here is an oil analysis on a G35 coupe. As you can see this oil shows very little wear after 7500 miles.
Element This Last 2nd to Last Universal
Sample Sample Sample Averages
Aluminum 2 1 2 3
Chromium 0 0 0 1
Iron 5 2 7 11
Copper 5 3 6 7
Lead 2 1 3 5
Tin 0 0 1 1
Moly 4 3 1 75
Nickel 0 0 0 0
Manganese 0 0 1 0
Silver 0 0 0 0
Titanium 0 0 0 0
Potassium 1 0 7 1
Boron 0 1 1 64
Silicon 8 7 9 11
Sodium 9 8 1 7
Calcium 2643 2504 2520 2296
Magnesium 106 111 103 115
Phosphorus 687 660 635 705
Zinc 857 762 789 840
Barium 0 0 0 0
- - -
TBN 2.6
==========================
Test : Vis Flash Fuel AFZ H2O INSOL
@210F Deg F % % % %
.
Shd Be: 58-65 >385 <2.0 0 <0.1 <0.6
.
This: 61.9 415 <0.5 0.0 0 0.3
Sampl
.
Great post