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Old 07-26-2006, 12:21 PM
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Javier, just sell your G and buy a R34 if you can't afford a new one.

The more you type, the more you avoid my offer.

Who cares if the RB is a "DETUNED" race engine . It still takes a ton of money for it to make big power.

If I were to put a HEAVY IRON BLOCKED, FRONT HEAVY MAKING I-6, I'd MUCH RATHER USE THE 2JZ Supra motor. But I don't.
 
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:24 PM
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and JEFF

To stick to the rb26 in a G the weight change in the street is less important during races WHY ???????? because 98 % of the races are in straight streets ,NO DRIFTING ,ROAD RACE, OR CIRCUIT RACING HERE!!!!!!!JUST PLAIN DRAG RACING!!!!!!!!!!THATS FROM MY EXPERIENCE + I JUST DRAG RACE!!!!!!

JEFF keep beliving that old words "THERES NO REPLACEMENT FOR REPLACMENT" check who`s breaking all world records with a lot less cubic inches!!!!!!!!! 2jzgte ,13b , 20b (rotary engines),vq engines,HKS rb26 car, all of them running in the 6 second zone!!!!!!!!!!plus alot of these engines running in the low low 7`s

20 years back this was tru but time and technology proof that they were WRONG!!!!!!!
 
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:36 PM
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Um V8s are into WAY lower times than 6s buddy. So you basicly admit the RB is one heavy ****. Great. Good that you finally admit that

But you know what? You were right about the balance NOT being 50/50. This guy's LS swap into the RX7 actually got a bit REAR biased


LS1/FD 2825lbs f49.59%/r50.41%

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Corner weighted my car yesterday. '93 Touring with sunroof, rear windshield wiper, R1 spoiler, '99 RZ side skirts, Gram Light 57 Pro 18x9's with 255/35/18 Toyo T-1S's (47lbs) and 18x10 275/35/18 Mich Pilot Sport rears (51lbs). No a/c or p/s, TriPoint adj bar, coilovers, no front bumper support (fiberglass part). Has spare tire, jack, rear carpet, no divider or rear bins.

2825lbs with nearly full tank of gas (maybe 3 gallons shy)
49.59% front l707 r697
50.41% rear l716 r708


A refresher on the combo:
'99 LS1/T56
Hinson: Kmember, torque arm, trans mount, alum driveshaft, tie rods
AFR 205cc heads (66cc chambers) milled .024", MLS gaskets, flycut pistons
Katech rod bolts, March pulley, Thunder Racing tensioner
TSP 233/239 .603/.600" 112LSA cam (sounds healthy), 7.4" hardened pushrod
LS6 intake, ported stock TB
JTR 1 7/8" LT headers, radiator, stock FD fans, 3.5" cold air kit, K&N 3.5" air filter
Magnaflow: 3" cats, Xpipe, mufflers, tips
March underdrive pulley, no a/c or p/s (feels great without p/s actually)
RAM 910 clutch, alum flywheel, 3:90 gears, S4 Turbo 2 LSD, 300M axles (Jodeny)

We also scaled another '94 FD base with cloth seats, no sunroof, dual 2 1/2", no cats, stock rims/tires (40lbs each), LS1/T56 with p/s but no a/c. Full interior.
2771lbs!
51.3% front l703 r720
48.64% rear l674 r674

he had about 3/4 tank or more

Finally we weighed a stock '93 FD auto with stock driveline, wheels, full interior and it was 2909lbs with a full tank of gas!
50.67% front l742 r732
49.33% rear l739 r696
 
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:37 PM
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still waiting on that rx7 ls swap with 50 /50 weight!!!!!!!! where is it????????
show me the proof!!!!!!!!! easy as that!!!!!!!!NO WRITE UP B.S. THAT SOME ONE DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
great decision of a 2jz instead of a loser LS ENGINE
NOW 2JZ PRODUCE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE POWER ON THE TOP END JUST BECAUSE HAS MORE BORE!!!!!!!! BUT THE RB26 REV LIKE NO OTHER SOMETHING THAT EVERY ONE LOVESSSSSSSS PLUS WEIGHT LESS. AND SHOW ME WHERE IN RACING A 2JZ HAS DOMINATE A RB26DETT.
AND DONT GET ME WRONG THE 2JZ IS JUST AS BULLET PROOF AS A RB26DETT THE 2 BEST ENGINES EVER BUILT IN JAPAN + ARE INLINE 6 LOL
 

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ARE YOU BLIND???????????????????????!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Javier
still waiting on that rx7 ls swap with 50 /50 weight!!!!!!!! where is it????????
show me the proof!!!!!!!!! easy as that!!!!!!!!NO WRITE UP B.S. THAT SOME ONE DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:43 PM
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Here is another in a color you might understand 27 lbs gained. Hmm how much does that battery weigh again???

Keep working on cars, maybe one day a wrench will hit you on the head and you will experience a moment of clarity. haha j/k

1993 touring modle 5-speed

Before

LF 729 RF 695
LR 705 RR 692

Total--2821lbs

After swap 1999 ls1/t56 trans ac and power steering

LF 748 RF 717
LR 683 RR 700

Total weight 2848lbs


Weight gain only 27lbs

I keep ac and power steering on my swap.

Just for comparison:

Stock
F/R: 50.5%/49.5%
L/R: 50.8%/49.2%

LS1
F/R: 51.4%/48.6%
L/R: 50.2%/49.8%


OH NO! IT'S 1% FRONT BIASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
 
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Old 07-26-2006, 01:02 PM
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It's a little off-topic at this point, but I found a short clip of an S2000 with an V8 underhood. Unfortunately, it's only at idle. I'd love to see a clip of it in action.

The weight difference and distribution might not be as ideal as the RX-7 swap, but hearing that rumble come from an S2000 certainly makes a strong case for the V8 instead of a 300HP, NA-built S2000 screamer.
 
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Old 07-26-2006, 01:10 PM
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I think the S2000 swap was a fake. I remember seeing a video but no engine shots.
 
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Could be. I might do some looking to see what I can find.
 
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:21 PM
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Are You Blind!!!!!!

HELL NO!!!!!!!!! I need to see the real stuff show some scan paper of the weight and balance !!!!!!!!!!NO SOME SH$%^ THAT SOMEONE TYPE IN THE NET!!!!
 
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Oh brother. Please just stop. You have been proven 100% completely wrong. Cripes alive man.

Originally Posted by Javier
HELL NO!!!!!!!!! I need to see the real stuff show some scan paper of the weight and balance !!!!!!!!!!NO SOME SH$%^ THAT SOMEONE TYPE IN THE NET!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Javier
To stick to the rb26 in a G the weight change in the street is less important during races WHY ???????? because 98 % of the races are in straight streets ,NO DRIFTING ,ROAD RACE, OR CIRCUIT RACING HERE!!!!!!!JUST PLAIN DRAG RACING!!!!!!!!!!THATS FROM MY EXPERIENCE + I JUST DRAG RACE!!!!!!

JEFF keep beliving that old words "THERES NO REPLACEMENT FOR REPLACMENT" check who`s breaking all world records with a lot less cubic inches!!!!!!!!! 2jzgte ,13b , 20b (rotary engines),vq engines,HKS rb26 car, all of them running in the 6 second zone!!!!!!!!!!plus alot of these engines running in the low low 7`s

20 years back this was tru but time and technology proof that they were WRONG!!!!!!!
Dude you are forgetting import dragging doesn't have the weight restrictions that NHRA imposses on domestics.

After my G started burning/consuming oil at 27,000 kms I have little faith in the engine. I am sure it is great, but import motors take a ton more cash to build up then domestics. Those RX7's with LSx swaps are friggin rolling hard and I doubt like hell your nissan equipped car is going to keep up. You can do a heads/cam package on a LSx and get just under 500rwhp(carteck actually had a stock displacement LS1 pushing 500rwhp and running high 10's in a FRC vette)

That LS7 in the new Z06 is routinely pounding out 450-460rwhp stock. With headers, tune and intake they are making over 500rwhp. Camshaft and a good few are netting 550rwhp. Drop a 100 shot on it and not much is going to touch it, especailly in a 3000lb RX7 or 3200lb Z06.

I agree with the few that said an LS2 or LS1 would be sweet in the G. Motor is relatively cheap to modify, parts are made by many different manufacturers and with just nitrous and headers it will make as much or more power then a TT VQ35.

I am not trying to be dick here it just seems you don't fully understand what this "POS" pushrod motor is capable of. Just like I am sure I don't know what a nissan engine is fully capable of, but I can bet dollar for dollar in mods the extra displacement is going to make more power.
 
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:01 PM
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When I have said tha the rb26 are light weight???????????

WHO CARES IF A RB26 IS A DETUNED RACE ENGINE???????? EVERYBODY WHO IS 100% MENTALLY IN HIS HEAD!!!!!!! EXCEPT YOU
i RATHER HAVE A RACE ENGINE THAT WILL GROW UP 3 TIMES THE STOCK HP THAN A V8 THAT NEED TO BE FULLY REBUILD TO ALLOW MORE POWER INSTEAD OF BLOWING UP!!!!
a RB26DETT WILL SUPPORT 700WHP STOCK BLOCK WITH BIGGER TURBO.,INJECTORS,ETC. CAN YOU V8 DO THAT????????

ANOTHER POINT IS ALL YOUR TYPING IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE HEARD OR SAW IN THE NET.YOU HAVENT DONE ANYTHING ON ANY CAR.I TALK BY MY EXPERIENCE NO BECAUSE I SAW OR HEARD OR WHAT I THINK IF IS DONE.CAN YOU DO THE SAME????????DONT ANSWER ME I KNOW THE ANSWER ALLREADY!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!

JUST SWAP A LS V8 INTO A G OR A RX7 THEN AND PUT YOU MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS!!!!!!!! I HAVE DONE RB26 SWAP IN EARLY 300ZX SO I KNOW WHAT I`M TALKING ABOUT.

I INVITE YOU TO COME TO PUERTO RICO (VACATION) I WILL TAKE YOU TO SEVERAL PLACES TO SEE HOW A HONDA CIVIC ALL MOTOR SPANK A VETTE IN THE STREET OR 1/4 MILE(YOU CHOOSE) AND ALOT OF SMALL JAPANESE IMPORT BEAT THE CRAP OF DOMESTIC CARS!!!!!!!!!!!! INCLUDING ME

IN CASE YOU DONT KNOW PUERTO RICO IS THE ISLAND OF THE FASTES IMPORT IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!! BEEN DOCUMENTED ALL OVER THE NET ,MAGAZINES!!
 
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The S2000 vid is, indeed, a fake. I found the original video and it's of an S2000 with ITBs... ...which sounds great itself!

Can't recall which magazine (SCC, Super Street) just had an article in it about making the swap into and RX-7. I think the cover is two RX-7(s) and a Z28. Weight and balance figures are all quoted, and it is so close that about the only thing you're going to notice, from behind the steering wheel, is the increased power and V8 rumble.

And the argument above seems to have evolved into nothing more than a Domestic vs. Import debate. Both can be made fast. The route you choose, along with the associated cost and time to build, is up to you. Ford and Chevy guys have been in pissing-matches over those two rivaling V8s for a long time. This isn't that different. What it comes down to, IMO, is picking your way to go fast. If that entails more work and money, whatever.

FWIW, this is pretty much mental masturbation, as when you're talking about a difference between 550-650HP in a street car, on the street, there are many factors that can eliminate such a HP advantage, not the least of which is you inability to put all of that power down at speeds below the legal limits. But as far as bench-racing goes, this is one of the more interesting match-ups that I've seen.
 

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Seren.....

Go To Nhra Rules For Imports To See If The Imports Doesnt Have Weight Restriction And Power Adders Restrictions!!!!!!! Make Your Homework PLEASE !!!!!!
 


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