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You're wrong, but no amount of talking will ever convince you otherwise.Originally Posted by KidStealthG35
Meister you could be right on that one... I may have looked a little too quick... SOrry internet is slow here on a ship so i will give that a pass... The simple fact is... V6 TT kits are cheaper on lower end cars, but simply because we drive infiniti they charge us more. A shop tried to charge me more for my Stereo setup and all i wanted was them to run the wires for me. They charged 50 bucks to run wires in my 240. they wanted 200 for the G... come on man!
As for the wiring in your G - ever stop to think what it will cost them to replace a part in your "bada$$" Nissan should they fvck something up?
More than your 240 by far. That alone could cause a price bump.
Trust me on this - vendors are out to make money. If they could sell more units by lowering the price (significant enough to cover their end) they'd do it.
Reading these forums you'd be under the impression that every G on the planet is modded out. The reality is that the large majority of Gs out there are still bone stock. Over the years (as the cars age and fall into the hands of younger people as we see happening now) the market will blow up (demand will increase) as it has for the "lesser" cars mentioned here.
Vendors don't care about maintaining the exclusivity (perceived or otherwise) of your car. They want your money and will do what they can to take it from you.
Aftermarket parts for the 2.0 Genesis are already all over the market because the engine didn't originate with the Genesis. Same motor as the Evo if I'm not mistaken - for the most part.
HUGE aftermarket demand for the Evo as compared to the G, thus cheaper prices.
Simple economics FTW.
HUGE aftermarket demand for the Evo as compared to the G, thus cheaper prices.
Simple economics FTW.
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Should have bought a scion or done your HW before you bought the G. You got to pay to play so I don't see why anyone would complain about prices. If you don't like the price then don't buy it, end of story.
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If you honestly believe weight is the issue (which is absolutely isn't) then why do decent off road shocks for my 7200 pound truck cost less than coilovers for the G?Originally Posted by meister23
So what you are saying is that companies are putting more R&D into the G thats why the coilovers cost more than say a civic. They are not beefing up the setup since one car is a lot heavier than the other and requires more material than another.
One guess - DEMAND. They sell more truck shocks. Bigger market.
If you manufacture something and sell 100,000 units then the cost per unit will be less than if you only sold 10,000 units. Apply that to cars and you get a more accurate picture of why some cars cost more to mod than others.
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LOL@Bob destroying this thread with simple economics LOL
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One guess - DEMAND. They sell more truck shocks. Bigger market.
If you manufacture something and sell 100,000 units then the cost per unit will be less than if you only sold 10,000 units. Apply that to cars and you get a more accurate picture of why some cars cost more to mod than others.
I was comparing car to car on why a coilover costs more for the G. I agree about supply and demand no question asked, but you also have to remember its just not the G when you talking about coilovers, the Z has the same coilover. Ksport has the civic coilover priced the same MSRP as the G coilover. Besides supply and demand I would say that it has to do with beefing up the suspension due to weight and thats why they feel the need to charge more.Originally Posted by Bob.On.Whidbey
If you honestly believe weight is the issue (which is absolutely isn't) then why do decent off road shocks for my 7200 pound truck cost less than coilovers for the G?One guess - DEMAND. They sell more truck shocks. Bigger market.
If you manufacture something and sell 100,000 units then the cost per unit will be less than if you only sold 10,000 units. Apply that to cars and you get a more accurate picture of why some cars cost more to mod than others.
If supply and demand played that big of a roll woundn't shoe sizes that are popular cost less since they produce more of them.
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If supply and demand played that big of a roll woundn't shoe sizes that are popular cost less since they produce more of them.
Meister I see what you're getting at. But to be honest when it comes to things like suspension they pretty much use the same components. Albeit some have better quality components but still the same nonetheless. I would say necessarily say they're "beefing" up the components because it's a bigger car, but probably making them more race oriented. I'm not an expert on it but my job is to take apart and put back together hydraulic components such as brakes, actuators, and struts. If you can work on one set you can work on em all pretty much.Originally Posted by meister23
I was comparing car to car on why a coilover costs more for the G. I agree about supply and demand no question asked, but you also have to remember its just not the G when you talking about coilovers, the Z has the same coilover. Ksport has the civic coilover priced the same MSRP as the G coilover. Besides supply and demand I would say that it has to do with beefing up the suspension due to weight and thats why they feel the need to charge more.If supply and demand played that big of a roll woundn't shoe sizes that are popular cost less since they produce more of them.
But a good example of how R&D might play a role on cost is that if the market isn't big on purchases, they would have to raise the prices on the cost to make up for the difference and to make a profit. Take for example the Lexus LFA. So much R&D has gone into it that Lexus pretty much is breaking even and not making any profit on the car. And mind you that it is expensive as hell for a Lexus. Supercar or not, it's price is exorbitant imho.
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R&D is a killer no doubt but how many companies that make coilovers go out and do all that R&D to every car they supply a coilover for. Most of the time Infiniti spent the money on R&D and companies use their own version of the product cutting their R&D in half because they copy the manufacture spec, changing very little. The actual coilover in civic is very similar to a coilover in a G, its a coil over a shock.
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i suddenly feel bad a**.
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Well I guess simply put you can say that they'll charge a premium for certain cars because they know people will still buy it. For instance you can assume that the demographic that owns civics won't (or perhaps can't afford) a 2k+ exhaust system for their car. Now if you charge a BMW owner 2k+ for an exhaust system for their M3 they'll buy it because they have the funding.Originally Posted by meister23
R&D is a killer no doubt but how many companies that make coilovers go out and do all that R&D to every car they supply a coilover for. Most of the time Infiniti spent the money on R&D and companies use their own version of the product cutting their R&D in half because they copy the manufacture spec, changing very little. The actual coilover in civic is very similar to a coilover in a G, its a coil over a shock.
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ehhh, idk. Comparing 2011 v6 mustangs seems more relative..Originally Posted by meister23
Its not about quality, you can buy some quality products for a scion. If your comparing turbo setups, putting a turbo on a v6 cost more since we have a lot bigger of an engine. Suspension cost more due to the G being a fat B1tch. I could go on and on with this but I think you get the point. If you want to compare look at the Honda Accord v6 coupe or Hyundai Genesis v6 Coupe.
and i dont think they base prices of turbos on the size of the engine.. wouldnt make sense.
@Bob, im not complaining about prices, I buy name brand quality products for my G, but the demand for aftermarket parts for the Evo bigger than for the G? Yeah, but than for the 350? You are nuts... Which brings me to the point of turbo kits... A turbo is a turbo... and 18G greddy turbo should be the same price for EVERY set up because it is the EXACT same thing, there is no CAR SPECIFIC turbo... Its not economics. Its the fact that a more expensive name on a car warrants higher prices. The ZR1 and XLR use basically the same exhaust... those are upward 80,000 dollar cars. Yet their exhaust system costs the same price as my G, why? Because the market for them is higher? How many XLR's do you see on the road compared to G35's? And for lesser cars mentioned. If you think a 240 is a LESSER car, you are crazy because i have seen 240's put down 700hp on an RB... I have also seen a cavalier with a 350 in it that puts down 580. So my question at the beginning of this thread was not "WHY CANT I BUY CHEAP PARTS FOR MY G?" It was, "Are we being targeted?" and only a few people have answered that. This isnt a flame on other cars because Dustin@Strafe has one of the sickest 240's i have seen that I would GLADLY trade my G for. It's simply, why does the same part cost more for a different car. Or tire rotation. I paid 20 dollars more to have my tires rotated on my G. My rims on my 240 are bigger.

