Superchage my 2005 G35 or buy a new g37?
#46
08-31-2010, 10:28 PM
You already see G35's riced out and ragged out, half the ones I see on the road have some sunken-in chrome rims and horribly tacky smoked lights. That being said, the fact that the G37 is a newer car that high schoolers can't afford (yet) is also pretty weak reason to buy one.
#47
08-31-2010, 11:03 PM
You obviously didn't read the thread I posted earlier documenting (on the honour system, granted) many boosted G's on stock internals running 350+ for 30,000 miles and more.
Please show me the 'couple of thousand' bolt-on mod list and dyno chart for a 300whp NA VQ35, because I want me some of that!!
And as far as cheap NA builds, all it took kacz07 to hit the magic 300 was these few, inexpensive mods. I hope he got them all on eBay or they will be a bit over 'a couple thousand'...(I'm betting we blew that number at about item # 5)
Components from intake to Exhaust:
JWT PopCharger (ConceptZPerformance)
Custom RT Tuning 3inch MAF
Cosworth Manifold (Sharif@Forged)
Nismo Radiator Cap
Koyo R-core radiator
Samco hoses
GTM oil cooler
Ferrea +1mm Oversize Valve train
JWT C8R Camshafts
HR Head Gaskets
NGK Iridium tipped spark plugs (one step colder)
Wiseco 96mm 11.5:1 Pistons
-.020mm overbore
-ceramic coated
Eagle H-beam rods
ARP L19 Head Studs
ARP Main Stud kit
ACL Trust Washers
ACL Main Bearings
ACl Road Bearings
Engine Gasket Kit
Rear Main Seal Retainer
Engine Component Work:
-Block inspected and cleaned
-Block redecked
-Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
-Rotating assembly balanced
-Crank magnafluxed
-Journals micro-polished
-Heads inspected and cleaned
-Heads redecked
-Ported exhaust and intake runners
-5 angle radius cut valve job
-Bowl work
-Valve stem seals installed
-Valve Stem Heights set
-Cold Clearance set for JWT cams
-Heads assembled
Megan Racing long tube headers
Motordyne Shockwave dual ti exhaust w/ XYZ straight pipe
UpRev Osiris Pro Tuner (w/ exhaust cam phasing)
_jb's made 312hp:
Engine Management System
Osiris Tuner Pro v2.0 (UpRev) - Rev Limit, Speed Limit, Reprogram Throttle Body, Tune, 5 Maps
Haltech Platinum PnP EMS Standalone for Air/Fuel Ratio, Ignition and Cam Timing
KPtechnologies VDC Memory Management Module
AutoMeter Nexus Water Temperature, Oil Pressure, and Air/Fuel Gauges
Engine
JE 11.7 CR +0.020 Pistons
Eagle Rods
ARP 2000 220,000 PSI Rated Rod Bolts
Calico Coated ACL Bearings
ARP Main Studs
ARP L19 Head Studs
HKS Head Gaskets
JWT C8R Camshafts
JWT Valve Springs and Shims
Deatschwerks 500cc Injectors
Cylinder Heads Ported with 5 Angle Valve Job
Nismo Oil Filler Cap
Intake and Exhaust
350Z Intake (Z-Tube)
K&N Hi-Flow Air Filter
CrawfordZ Polished Upper Plenum
CrawfordZ Headers with Jet-Hot 1300 Degree Coating
CrawfordZ High Flow Cats
HKS Hi-Power Ti Exhaust
1cockyz's list, with prices:
This is my N/A build project all prices listed
All machine work done by M2 race systems in Farmingdale, NJ
Short block:
Wiseco 11:1 .020" pistons $575 shipped on ebay new
Eagle rods $400 shipped from a forum member new
ACL race bearings, Calico CT-1 coated $256.85 shipped from calico
Machine work was $604.55 including nj 7% sales tax
bore and hone block $240
balanced rotating assembly $160
polish crank $45
Machine down the water jackets for the HR head gaskets $80
Measure all journals and housings $40
Revup oil pump $$185.50 new
OEM gasket set $287.41 new
Heads:
M2 Serdi valve job $335(4 angle with radius cut on intake and 1 angle with radius cut on exhaust) tips ground $55 and mill decks $125 and clean inspect assemble heads $150. Total for the heads was $711.55
Brian crower 264 cams with BC springs and Ti retainers $815 shipped forum member new
HR head gaskets and head bolts $116.80 including 7% sales tax
The intake and plenum setup: From filter to heads
JWT popcharger $109 from avalon racing new
samco intake duct $60 shipped on ebay new
proflow ported throttle body(not used on 2-19-09 dyno tune)
APS tall boy plenum $190 shipped from a forum member used
Nonrevup lower with all the casting imperfections removed
Z1 Big maf housing
Exhaust:
DC sports stainless headers $300 shipped ebay new
aps test pipes $85 shipped my350z member used
nismo y pipe and exhaust $575 ebay used
Misc:
JWT oil pan spacer $65 shipped from my350z member used
koyo r core $275 my350z member new
Fluidampr $335 from titan motorsports
All in all, my impression is it's a little beyond the OP's commitment level...
Please show me the 'couple of thousand' bolt-on mod list and dyno chart for a 300whp NA VQ35, because I want me some of that!!
And as far as cheap NA builds, all it took kacz07 to hit the magic 300 was these few, inexpensive mods. I hope he got them all on eBay or they will be a bit over 'a couple thousand'...(I'm betting we blew that number at about item # 5)
Components from intake to Exhaust:
JWT PopCharger (ConceptZPerformance)
Custom RT Tuning 3inch MAF
Cosworth Manifold (Sharif@Forged)
Nismo Radiator Cap
Koyo R-core radiator
Samco hoses
GTM oil cooler
Ferrea +1mm Oversize Valve train
JWT C8R Camshafts
HR Head Gaskets
NGK Iridium tipped spark plugs (one step colder)
Wiseco 96mm 11.5:1 Pistons
-.020mm overbore
-ceramic coated
Eagle H-beam rods
ARP L19 Head Studs
ARP Main Stud kit
ACL Trust Washers
ACL Main Bearings
ACl Road Bearings
Engine Gasket Kit
Rear Main Seal Retainer
Engine Component Work:
-Block inspected and cleaned
-Block redecked
-Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
-Rotating assembly balanced
-Crank magnafluxed
-Journals micro-polished
-Heads inspected and cleaned
-Heads redecked
-Ported exhaust and intake runners
-5 angle radius cut valve job
-Bowl work
-Valve stem seals installed
-Valve Stem Heights set
-Cold Clearance set for JWT cams
-Heads assembled
Megan Racing long tube headers
Motordyne Shockwave dual ti exhaust w/ XYZ straight pipe
UpRev Osiris Pro Tuner (w/ exhaust cam phasing)
_jb's made 312hp:
Engine Management System
Osiris Tuner Pro v2.0 (UpRev) - Rev Limit, Speed Limit, Reprogram Throttle Body, Tune, 5 Maps
Haltech Platinum PnP EMS Standalone for Air/Fuel Ratio, Ignition and Cam Timing
KPtechnologies VDC Memory Management Module
AutoMeter Nexus Water Temperature, Oil Pressure, and Air/Fuel Gauges
Engine
JE 11.7 CR +0.020 Pistons
Eagle Rods
ARP 2000 220,000 PSI Rated Rod Bolts
Calico Coated ACL Bearings
ARP Main Studs
ARP L19 Head Studs
HKS Head Gaskets
JWT C8R Camshafts
JWT Valve Springs and Shims
Deatschwerks 500cc Injectors
Cylinder Heads Ported with 5 Angle Valve Job
Nismo Oil Filler Cap
Intake and Exhaust
350Z Intake (Z-Tube)
K&N Hi-Flow Air Filter
CrawfordZ Polished Upper Plenum
CrawfordZ Headers with Jet-Hot 1300 Degree Coating
CrawfordZ High Flow Cats
HKS Hi-Power Ti Exhaust
1cockyz's list, with prices:
This is my N/A build project all prices listed
All machine work done by M2 race systems in Farmingdale, NJ
Short block:
Wiseco 11:1 .020" pistons $575 shipped on ebay new
Eagle rods $400 shipped from a forum member new
ACL race bearings, Calico CT-1 coated $256.85 shipped from calico
Machine work was $604.55 including nj 7% sales tax
bore and hone block $240
balanced rotating assembly $160
polish crank $45
Machine down the water jackets for the HR head gaskets $80
Measure all journals and housings $40
Revup oil pump $$185.50 new
OEM gasket set $287.41 new
Heads:
M2 Serdi valve job $335(4 angle with radius cut on intake and 1 angle with radius cut on exhaust) tips ground $55 and mill decks $125 and clean inspect assemble heads $150. Total for the heads was $711.55
Brian crower 264 cams with BC springs and Ti retainers $815 shipped forum member new
HR head gaskets and head bolts $116.80 including 7% sales tax
The intake and plenum setup: From filter to heads
JWT popcharger $109 from avalon racing new
samco intake duct $60 shipped on ebay new
proflow ported throttle body(not used on 2-19-09 dyno tune)
APS tall boy plenum $190 shipped from a forum member used
Nonrevup lower with all the casting imperfections removed
Z1 Big maf housing
Exhaust:
DC sports stainless headers $300 shipped ebay new
aps test pipes $85 shipped my350z member used
nismo y pipe and exhaust $575 ebay used
Misc:
JWT oil pan spacer $65 shipped from my350z member used
koyo r core $275 my350z member new
Fluidampr $335 from titan motorsports
All in all, my impression is it's a little beyond the OP's commitment level...
#48
08-31-2010, 11:14 PM
That's a great reason to get a g37 and cars are just a phase. When the new 2000 maxima came out everyone wanted to get it because it was newer less miles and no one had it. It makes it look like you have money now the new 2009 everyone wants it.
Supercharged g35
Pros.
•Faster
•win street races
Cons
•Money
•Pullover rate will increase due to the
growing number of teens racing
•High mileage cars tend to need more mechanical work because this just stop working when ever it feel
•Alot of stops to the mechanic due to things breaking and not working
•Damage to parts like axles engine trans diff oh and tires lots of tires
Infiniti G37
Pros
• alot of people cannot afford it yet
• low miles meaning less trip to the mechanic more time driving
•you stand out because you have something newer
• Less mechanical problems
•newer technology
Cons
•Money
•Limited upgrades available
Supercharged g35
Pros.
•Faster
•win street races
Cons
•Money
•Pullover rate will increase due to the
growing number of teens racing
•High mileage cars tend to need more mechanical work because this just stop working when ever it feel
•Alot of stops to the mechanic due to things breaking and not working
•Damage to parts like axles engine trans diff oh and tires lots of tires
Infiniti G37
Pros
• alot of people cannot afford it yet
• low miles meaning less trip to the mechanic more time driving
•you stand out because you have something newer
• Less mechanical problems
•newer technology
Cons
•Money
•Limited upgrades available
#49
08-31-2010, 11:29 PM
But hey if giving off the illusion of wealth is a big part of why you purchase a car, then by all means go get a G37. You're sure showing those high schoolers whose boss.
#50
09-01-2010, 12:00 AM
What is limited? I have already done more to my G37 than I did to my G35.
In the end it is a simple decision. You could drop 20k into your G35 and build it. Then when you turn around to sell it, it will still be worth less than a stock G37. Plus the G37 has much nicer interior, factory warranty, not as market flooded, big brakes stock, ect ect ect.
#51
09-01-2010, 12:17 AM
I stopped equating cars to financial status a long time ago, a lot of losers living paycheck-to-paycheck I know drive Mercedes. A lot of doctors and business owners I know drive Toyota Camrys.
But hey if giving off the illusion of wealth is a big part of why you purchase a car, then by all means go get a G37. You're sure showing those high schoolers whose boss.
But hey if giving off the illusion of wealth is a big part of why you purchase a car, then by all means go get a G37. You're sure showing those high schoolers whose boss.
The point is driving something new less problems
#52
09-01-2010, 12:20 AM
I totally agree. Earlier in the thread I said if you're even debating these two choices, most likely you're going to be happier with a G37. Dropping serious time, money, and dedication into an older platform like the VQ35DE is an acquired taste. 
#53
09-01-2010, 12:25 AM
Really? One of your pros is street races?
What is limited? I have already done more to my G37 than I did to my G35.
In the end it is a simple decision. You could drop 20k into your G35 and build it. Then when you turn around to sell it, it will still be worth less than a stock G37. Plus the G37 has much nicer interior, factory warranty, not as market flooded, big brakes stock, ect ect ect.
What is limited? I have already done more to my G37 than I did to my G35.
In the end it is a simple decision. You could drop 20k into your G35 and build it. Then when you turn around to sell it, it will still be worth less than a stock G37. Plus the G37 has much nicer interior, factory warranty, not as market flooded, big brakes stock, ect ect ect.
and spend 10k to 30k on mods now i'm not sure whats his reason for wanting a supercharger but for most people its a ego trip.
#54
09-01-2010, 12:41 AM
Can't handle that? Well don't reply. It's a fact of life. The G8 series is a capable car and actually handles well too.
#55
09-01-2010, 10:12 AM
Really? I can do all the work to prove your assertion?!? Golly gee, thanks, that's swell!
Signed,
Your Bitch (not)
I *am* seeing some VQ35HR's hit 300 with bolt-ons and a tune, but that's an 07-up car and not what the OP has.
Signed,
Your Bitch (not)
I *am* seeing some VQ35HR's hit 300 with bolt-ons and a tune, but that's an 07-up car and not what the OP has.
Last edited by Swivel; 09-01-2010 at 11:20 AM.
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#60
09-01-2010, 12:39 PM
Interesting though Jeff, but I highly doubt many on this forum would go from an Infiniti to a Pontiac. I sure as hell wouldn't.