Official "Random Airbag/SRS Light" Thread: Lets find a permanent fix!!!
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Official "Random Airbag/SRS Light" Thread: Lets find a permanent fix!!!
Has anyone one found a common fault or bad connection that typically causes these lights? I've done many searches and there are alot of threads, but the vast majority either end up with no resolution from the original poster, replacing the drivers side airbag module (which is bizarre) or simply replace the whole wiring harness (which is completely ridiculous) ....and sometimes the fix isn't permanent (spending $1800 for a "possible" fix on a $12000 car doesn't make much sense!....especially if it routinely doesn't fix the problem!!!!).
The airbag connector under the seat recall that came out a couple of years ago has nothing to do with the problem.....in fact in many cases, it seems that people started to have SRS light issues after the recall was done.
Alot of people are now over the 6 year/70000 mile warranty for the SRS system and Infiniti/many dealers won't cover the repairs on Goodwill (which doesn't impress me because the airbag/SRS system is a required safety system for the car).
On my car (2005 G35x....owned for 4 years), I've already had the connector recall done. The SRS light was blinking for randomly very occasionally before recall and now has continued to randomly blink much more often after the recall. I am able to reset the light using the key on/off procedure each time. I've gotten a Drivers side seat airbag code once a number of months ago, every other time, it gives me the "no fault found" code. If the drivers seat airbag module was really the problem, I should be seeing the code almost every time. Lately I've noticed the airbag light illuminate all of a sudden when simply driving down a street (no bumps, no sharp turns, nothing unusual happened to cause it to illuminate).
It is REALLY irritating on what is otherwise a really nice car, that a very important piece of safety equipement is acting extremely flakey. If I can't find a permanent fix soon, this car will be sold and I will not be buying another Infiniti/Nissan product again (a senitment that I've seen on many posts!!!).
So in summary, has anyone found a connector, a common bad spot in the wiring harness, or a (cheap!) piece in the SRS system that typically goes bad and is easy (and cheap!) to permanently fix?? I'm not going to get the dealer to randomly replace $1800 modules/computers/harnesses, especially when there is alot of evidence on these threads that the fix may not be permanent.
Looking forward to the responses!!! (and the permanent solution....which I hope is not "Sell the car").
The airbag connector under the seat recall that came out a couple of years ago has nothing to do with the problem.....in fact in many cases, it seems that people started to have SRS light issues after the recall was done.
Alot of people are now over the 6 year/70000 mile warranty for the SRS system and Infiniti/many dealers won't cover the repairs on Goodwill (which doesn't impress me because the airbag/SRS system is a required safety system for the car).
On my car (2005 G35x....owned for 4 years), I've already had the connector recall done. The SRS light was blinking for randomly very occasionally before recall and now has continued to randomly blink much more often after the recall. I am able to reset the light using the key on/off procedure each time. I've gotten a Drivers side seat airbag code once a number of months ago, every other time, it gives me the "no fault found" code. If the drivers seat airbag module was really the problem, I should be seeing the code almost every time. Lately I've noticed the airbag light illuminate all of a sudden when simply driving down a street (no bumps, no sharp turns, nothing unusual happened to cause it to illuminate).
It is REALLY irritating on what is otherwise a really nice car, that a very important piece of safety equipement is acting extremely flakey. If I can't find a permanent fix soon, this car will be sold and I will not be buying another Infiniti/Nissan product again (a senitment that I've seen on many posts!!!).
So in summary, has anyone found a connector, a common bad spot in the wiring harness, or a (cheap!) piece in the SRS system that typically goes bad and is easy (and cheap!) to permanently fix?? I'm not going to get the dealer to randomly replace $1800 modules/computers/harnesses, especially when there is alot of evidence on these threads that the fix may not be permanent.
Looking forward to the responses!!! (and the permanent solution....which I hope is not "Sell the car").
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I had the same issue, two months after the recall my airbag light came on. Brought it back and was told it was the crash zone sensor: Crash Zone Sensor fail after airbag recall. My airbag light never came on before the recall, so I believe it must have been something done during the recall. Plus after I did the reset (it came on twice) the light stayed off so I'm sure the sensors and the airbags are fine.
I am almost certain the cause is the driver/passenger seat airbag connectors that were being worked on. When I remove my seat I noticed the airbag connectors were zip-tied with ePoxy applied, I know that's done according to the TSB but I think it actually caused the problem. I've swapped seats since then and the light never came back on (knock on wood). Anyway what I'm trying to say is if you never had any issue on it before, and all of a sudden the problem started showing up after it's been worked on, it's obvious to me that something was done incorrectly.
I am almost certain the cause is the driver/passenger seat airbag connectors that were being worked on. When I remove my seat I noticed the airbag connectors were zip-tied with ePoxy applied, I know that's done according to the TSB but I think it actually caused the problem. I've swapped seats since then and the light never came back on (knock on wood). Anyway what I'm trying to say is if you never had any issue on it before, and all of a sudden the problem started showing up after it's been worked on, it's obvious to me that something was done incorrectly.
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The light did come on once or twice before the recall was done. I was told the recall should fix the issue. Unfortunately, it has just gotten steadily worse since the recall was completed (and really bad in the last 6 months). I have taken it back a couple of times and the last time they did indicate that the most likely culprit was the drivers side (seat) airbag, however I have checked the code multiple times myself and have only gotten the seat code once (the light is literally coming on every other day now) . Every other time I've checked and reset it, I've gotten "no fault" which is unbelieveably frustrating.
I'm going to be really PO'd if I pay the dealer $800 to replace that airbag module and the light comes on again a few days later (as has happened to a number of other people in other posts).
I'm going to be really PO'd if I pay the dealer $800 to replace that airbag module and the light comes on again a few days later (as has happened to a number of other people in other posts).
#4
I doubt the issue is from any sensor or airbag module itself, IMO it's just bad connection. Try unplug and plug back the driver side seat airbag, the plug is under the seat, so you have to unbolt the seat to get to it. Put everything back and do another airbag reset. If it doesn't come back on then you know you got it fixed.
#5
I had the recall done on the passenger side seat harnesses, (under the seat). The light came back on, and when I reset it, it would stay off for one month and come back on. It got to the point where the SRS light would come on every day.
A few days ago I took my seat out and checked my plugs out. Some plugs had epoxy around the wires. I unplugged them, and plugged them back in a few times. I wiggled the wires a plugged everything back in. Everything is good now. The wiring suckes on these cars,
A few days ago I took my seat out and checked my plugs out. Some plugs had epoxy around the wires. I unplugged them, and plugged them back in a few times. I wiggled the wires a plugged everything back in. Everything is good now. The wiring suckes on these cars,
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Problem Solved!!!
It was a bad connection at the connector under the seat that was supposedly "fixed" on the recall.
I took the driver's seat out and observed that the recall had been performed as per Infiniti's directions. The wires were epoxied and the connector assembly was zip-tied together. I cut the zip-tie in order to separate the connector assembly. The zip tie was still partially epoxied to the connectors where it was threaded through the wires, so I just trimmed it up to that point and left the remainder of the zip-tie that was epoxied rather than further disturbing the wires.
I then separated the connector and inspected the contacts. Everything seemed very clean with no corrosion, so I ensured the female end of the contacts were tight and then reconnected the connector. When the connecter is together, it seems that the design allows for some "play" back and forth, I assume for heat expansion. When the connector was zip-tied, this "play" was not possible. I am wondering if with the connector being zip-tied tightly together, it was actually contributing to a bad contact?!?
Anyways, the connector is now basically back in what would have been the original factory condition (no zip-tie holding the connector tightly together, allowing some play in the connection). I did this work a couple of days after I wrote my original post in this thread and the airbag light has not illuminated once in over 6 weeks (as opposed to every other day prior to me undoing the recall), so obviously that was the problem.
I would love to give the Infiniti engineer who came up with the "fix" for the airbag connector a swift kick in the nads for giving many G35 owners alot of unnecessary aggravation (and potentially spending hundreds of dollars for no reason)!!!
In summary, if you have had the airbag connector recall done on the drivers seat in your G35 and you are continually getting a flashing airbag/SRS light with a code that points to the drivers side airbag module, undo the connector recall and that will fix your problem.
I took the driver's seat out and observed that the recall had been performed as per Infiniti's directions. The wires were epoxied and the connector assembly was zip-tied together. I cut the zip-tie in order to separate the connector assembly. The zip tie was still partially epoxied to the connectors where it was threaded through the wires, so I just trimmed it up to that point and left the remainder of the zip-tie that was epoxied rather than further disturbing the wires.
I then separated the connector and inspected the contacts. Everything seemed very clean with no corrosion, so I ensured the female end of the contacts were tight and then reconnected the connector. When the connecter is together, it seems that the design allows for some "play" back and forth, I assume for heat expansion. When the connector was zip-tied, this "play" was not possible. I am wondering if with the connector being zip-tied tightly together, it was actually contributing to a bad contact?!?
Anyways, the connector is now basically back in what would have been the original factory condition (no zip-tie holding the connector tightly together, allowing some play in the connection). I did this work a couple of days after I wrote my original post in this thread and the airbag light has not illuminated once in over 6 weeks (as opposed to every other day prior to me undoing the recall), so obviously that was the problem.
I would love to give the Infiniti engineer who came up with the "fix" for the airbag connector a swift kick in the nads for giving many G35 owners alot of unnecessary aggravation (and potentially spending hundreds of dollars for no reason)!!!
In summary, if you have had the airbag connector recall done on the drivers seat in your G35 and you are continually getting a flashing airbag/SRS light with a code that points to the drivers side airbag module, undo the connector recall and that will fix your problem.
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