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Memphoman 11-28-2018 10:02 PM

Dealer labor rate?
 
Yesterday I took my coupe in for a "minor" or so I thought problem with dash SVD/SLIP/BRAKE lights coming on intermittently while driving, left it to be diagnosed and got a call back that it was rear brakes, I decided to let them fix it and when I went back to get it, got my bill and it was little under a grand but, what kinda floored me was the $155@hour labor charge, my how things have gotten more expensive. Guess I should have ck'd here 1st...ah, well, live and learn Is this rate pretty standard around the country?

coffeysm 11-29-2018 11:37 AM

Wow, that is ridiculous and I remember the few times I did bring it to the dealer it was about 100-125. That was a very long time ago though and I can't imagine spending 155 dollars today; I'm pretty grateful that when I do need to bring it to my mechanic he only charges 75. I do all my work myself pretty much, unless I don't have time, will, or correct equipment (ie: lift).

onevq35de 11-29-2018 12:54 PM

Yes, you got your *** kicked and then handed to you. :beathorse: It happens. Best thing you can do is not let it happen again, ever. Here's two ways;
1. Learn how to fix things yourself
.....and if the job is not within your ability OR you botch something while learning and need to get bailed out;
2. Find a reliable shop. $90/hr at a competent Meineke shop and at Nisstech who is Nissan/Infiniti specific.

Hall Stevenson 11-29-2018 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Memphoman (Post 7156268)
Yesterday I took my coupe in for a "minor" or so I thought problem with dash SVD/SLIP/BRAKE lights coming on intermittently while driving, left it to be diagnosed and got a call back that it was rear brakes, I decided to let them fix it and when I went back to get it, got my bill and it was little under a grand but, what kinda floored me was the $155@hour labor charge, my how things have gotten more expensive. Guess I should have ck'd here 1st...ah, well, live and learn Is this rate pretty standard around the country?

Can you give a breakdown of the charges - labor and parts ? A rear brake job at a dealer would probably run ~$300 and obviously more if they convinced you your rotors needed replacing. But there's so much mark-up in that job you'd think they could have cut you some slack on the "diagnostic" part of the job. I have to believe that their Nissan-specific diagnostic equipment was probably able to tell them the cause so it could have been nothing more than plugging in their tool.

Does anyone know how/why worn-out rear brakes would cause these lights to come on ?

telcoman 11-30-2018 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Memphoman (Post 7156268)
Yesterday I took my coupe in for a "minor" or so I thought problem with dash SVD/SLIP/BRAKE lights coming on intermittently while driving, left it to be diagnosed and got a call back that it was rear brakes, I decided to let them fix it and when I went back to get it, got my bill and it was little under a grand but, what kinda floored me was the $155@hour labor charge, my how things have gotten more expensive. Guess I should have ck'd here 1st...ah, well, live and learn Is this rate pretty standard around the country?

My local dealer charges $279 for brakes on each axle and includes turning the rotors.
$155.00 labor charge is lower than the usual $160/hr that Infiniti usually charges.
When they did the brakes on my previous 06 G35 6 speed at 86k miles those pads were still on the vehicle when I traded it in at 171796 miles. I've never had a problem with this dealer
You could always go to Jiffy Lube or Pep Boys and really get fvcked.

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onevq35de 11-30-2018 12:30 PM

I got powerstop cross drilled & slotted rotors + carbon ceramic pads, boots and clips all around for $330 & installed'em myself. Gave the me opportunity to file down the pads ears a bit and pay close attention to where and how much sil-glide to use. Superior products and superior install for just a little more than paying some jackass to reuse old parts and haphazardly slapping **** back together to get it out the door and ring the register.

telcoman 11-30-2018 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by onevq35de (Post 7156355)
I got powerstop cross drilled & slotted rotors + carbon ceramic pads, boots and clips all around for $330 & installed'em myself. Gave the me opportunity to file down the pads ears a bit and pay close attention to where and how much sil-glide to use. Superior products and superior install for just a little more than paying some jackass to reuse old parts and haphazardly slapping **** back together to get it out the door and ring the register.

I'm sure you got a lot of satisfaction by installing them yourself but I'd be curious to know if you can get 85k-90k miles on those pads and rotors. On my previous 2012 G37S the original brake pads were still on the vehicle when i traded it in at 94444 miles with about 5mm still left on the pads.With my two previous Infiniti's that were stick shift vehicles, I downshifted frequently to avoid using the brakes whenever possible. For everyday driving and commuting what is the purpose of switching to drilled rotors?
I'm on my third Infiniti from the same dealer and I trust their experienced technicians to work on my vehicle.
Infiniti uses quality parts and their are numerous posts of others that tried cheaper parts and then found out they don't work well.
On my current Q70 I frequently use manual mode to use a lower gear to slow my vehicle which will also extend brake pad life.
Perhaps you drive like many on the road that I see accelerating sharply with a red signal up ahead only to have to slam on their brakes to stop at the next signal?

Telcoman

Hall Stevenson 11-30-2018 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by onevq35de (Post 7156355)
I got powerstop cross drilled & slotted rotors + carbon ceramic pads, boots and clips all around for $330 & installed'em myself. Gave the me opportunity to file down the pads ears a bit and pay close attention to where and how much sil-glide to use. Superior products and superior install for just a little more than paying some jackass to reuse old parts and haphazardly slapping **** back together to get it out the door and ring the register.

You realize that some people don't want to work on their cars or don't know how or simply can't (no tools, location, etc) ?

onevq35de 11-30-2018 06:57 PM

Telcoman, either you never apply the brakes or you've got the infamous "super brakes" that nobodies ever heard about. I switched to cross drilled & slotted rotors because they look cool, they're lighter :drivingskid: and I read that by doing so, they'd stop squeaking in reverse which oddly enough they did. :8: For the price of having a shop or dealer replace these wear and tear items I chose to use the $ for the rotors, pads and stainless steel brake lines. I'm no harder on my brakes than average joe.
Anybody can work on their anything. If they'd rather pay to have it done, well, that's why there's so many shops. If they're physically incapable then that's unfortunate. I do a better job with nearly everything I do because it's mine. That doesn't mean I don't **** up every once in a great while.
Go to the dealer or shop xyz and you never really know what happened;
"Hey, were'd that scratch come from?"
"WTF? My transmission was working fine BEFORE I brought the car to the dealer".
"Mr. dealer, your mechanic scratched my car and/or did something to my transmission." Good luck with these types of scenarios.
A year after the part the mechanic broke that was totally unrelated to what he was fixing finally fails. Who pays? You, and at these rates, you pay big $.
I recall bring my FX in for a head light recall campaign. The mechanic pried my bumper off with a flat headed screw driver. Two marks on either side were very visible. Pretty easy thing to do, removing the bumper that is. "But he's our best mechanic" says the pecker head service writer who couldn't give 2 shits either way. I think if people paid 1/2 the amount of attention I do, they'd see things my way but sometimes ignorance truly is bliss and it's probably better that way but I cannot go back. :coolio:
Please don't read too much into my style of writing. Don't mean to come across as insulting. I just cannot stand shops and dealers, can give way too many examples of poor work done and damage done and like to encourage others to do for themselves. It's not that hard and is very gratifying.

eazdaskeez 12-01-2018 07:33 AM

Yikes! I haven't been to a shop in about 10 years, I do all my maintenence myself. When my engine went tap tap tap the shop wanted 2600 to install and I decided to learn how to remove and replace it myself. In my opinion some shops tend to overcharge and not care about your vehicle as much as you would because to them its just a car but to you it's more then that. To the original poster, get a tool set and start to learn how to do some basic maintenance to avoid this in the future

Memphoman 12-01-2018 09:24 PM

http://dlrimgs.flathatsystems.com/in...flasvegas2.jpgService Detail Report

Below are the details for the suggested services. Please contact me with any questions you may have.

Thank you,
Vincent Simonetti

RO #: 33560

25INZLabor TypeLabor HrsLabor $Parts $Total W0.60$ 93.00$ 0.00$ 93.00MANUFACTURER RECALL ISSUED RECALL R1016 G35 BTS CONNECTOR ITB10-030 IMPORTED FROM DBS ON 11/26/2018 16:14 PERFORMED RECALL13INZLabor TypeLabor HrsLabor $Parts $Total C3.00$ 343.15$ 101.80$ 444.95CUSTOMER STATES BRAKE VDC AND SLIP LIGHTS COMING ON ACROSS DASHREAR BRAKES AT MINUMUM SPECS 2MM * REPLACING REAR BRAKES AND TURNING ROTORS Part #Part DescriptionQty
Unit $Total
1
$ 85.00$ 85.00CLEANER1
$ 16.80$ 16.8018INZ1Labor TypeLabor HrsLabor $Parts $Total C1.50$ 232.50$ 319.99$ 552.49CUSTOMER STATES DRIVER FRONT SEAT BELT NOT RETRACTING AND WHEN IT DOES ITS VERY SLOWSEAT BELT RETRACTOR NOT RETRACTING * REPLACING DRIVERS SEATBELT Part #Part DescriptionQty
Unit $Total
86885AC83C 1
$ 319.99$ 319.9955INZINSPLabor TypeLabor HrsLabor $Parts $Total C0.00$ 0.00$ 0.00$ 0.00Perform Multi-Point Inspection06INZZZZLabor TypeLabor HrsLabor $Parts $Total C0.00$ 0.00$ 0.00$ 0.00Battery Test
Sub-total Estimate when approvedLabor HrsLabor $Parts $Total 4.50$ 575.65$ 421.79$ 997.44

Tire inspection

Tread depthConditionTread depthCondition
Front
Driver
6/32+No Damage6/32+No Damage
Front
PassengerRear
Driver
6/32+No Damage6/32+No Damage
Rear
Passenger

Items requiring immediate attention

Labor TypeLabor HrsLabor $Parts $TotalBrake FluidC1.00$ 121.00$ 28.99$ 149.99FLUSH* FLUSHPart #Part DescriptionQty
Unit $Total
1
$ 0.00$ 0.00Labor TypeLabor HrsLabor $Parts $TotalIn-Cabin Micro-filterC0.50$ 77.50$ 42.45$ 119.95NO HISTORY* REPLACING IN CABINPart #Part DescriptionQty
Unit $Total
1
$ 0.00$ 0.00Labor TypeLabor HrsLabor $Parts $TotalPower Steering FluidC0.80$ 124.00$ 25.99$ 149.99FLUSH* FLUSHPart #Part DescriptionQty
Unit $Total
1
$ 0.00$ 0.00Labor TypeLabor HrsLabor $Parts $TotalRear Shocks/SuspensionC3.00$ 465.00$ 140.46$ 605.46Photo 1REAR RADIUS RODS ARE CRAKING* REPLACING REAR RADIUS RODSPart #Part DescriptionQty
Unit $Total
55110AL5102
$ 70.23$ 140.46Labor TypeLabor HrsLabor $Parts $TotalRear Sub-frameC6.80$ 1184.00$ 852.77$ 2036.77Photo 1BUSHING TORN AND LEAKING* REPLACING REAR SUBFRAMEPart #Part DescriptionQty
Unit $Total
55400CD02A1
$ 852.77$ 852.77
Sub-total Estimate when approvedLabor HrsLabor $Parts $Total 12.10$ 1971.50$ 1090.66$ 3062.16

Items requiring attention soon

Labor TypeLabor HrsLabor $Parts $TotalFront Shocks/Suspension (CV Boots/Tie Rods/Bushings)C3.00$ 465.00$ 81.26$ 546.26COMP ROD BUSHINGS TSTARTING TO SPLIT* REPLACING COMP ROD BUSHINGSPart #Part DescriptionQty
Unit $Total
54570AC70A2
$ 40.63$ 81.26
Sub-total Estimate when approvedLabor HrsLabor $Parts $Total 3.00$ 465.00$ 81.26$ 546.26

Items Passing Inspection

Front Brakes Axles-Visual Inspection for Leaks Battery Capacity Test Battery Terminals/Cables/Mounting Coolant Cooling System Hoses Differential (Check condition & leaks) Drive Belts Drive Shaft Engine Air Filter Engine Oil Fluid Leaks (Oil/Transmission/Coolant) Headlights/Turn Signal/High Beams/Fog Lights Heater/AC Hoses and Connections Horn Operation Muffler/Exhaust/Mountings Radiator Core & Cap Tail Lights/Brake Lights/Turn Signal/Reverse Lights/Exterior Lamps/Rear Wiper Windshield Washer Fluid Wiper Blades

Grand Total Estimate For All Recommended Services

Labor $$ 3012.15Parts $$ 1593.71Shop Fees$ 34.98Taxes$ 134.37Grand Total Estimate when approved$ 4775.21
Address:
5555 W Sahara Ave
Las Vegas, NV 89146

Service: (702) 252-8100

HOURS:
Monday through Friday: 7:00am - 6:00pm
Saturday: 7:00am - 4:00pm
Sunday: Closed

www.infinitioflasvegas.com

Memphoman 12-01-2018 09:38 PM

see below for breakdown, the service agent knew exactly what was causing my dash light problem as soon as I described it

coffeysm 12-04-2018 09:49 PM

You can do all of those yourself with minimal tools and just some time in your driveway/garage; I know I did them (front/rear shocks, fluid flushes, compression rods, and micro filter). The diff bushing breaking is common as well and can be done as well, but it would seem like a PITA to do on your back.

saywat? 12-07-2018 08:25 PM

you didnt bother to ask how much it will cost?

cleric670 12-09-2018 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Hall Stevenson (Post 7156331)
Does anyone know how/why worn-out rear brakes would cause these lights to come on ?

As the brake pads wear and become thinner the brake caliper piston extends further to compensate, this takes hydraulic brake fluid to extend the caliper piston and it causes the brake fluid reservoir level to drop. There is a limit switch inside the system to measure fluid level and when it reaches the low limit it triggers the VDC/SLIP light.


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