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Alto101 Oct 4, 2009 02:49 PM

Allignment Done after Eibach's
 
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After letting the springs settle for a few weeks, I had an allignment done. I see that the camber is not within specs so I am looking for some input. Do I need a front and rear camber kit? What will the side effects be of not getting the camber kit? If you notice anything else please point out to me as I am new to this.

Thanks:)

InTgr8r Oct 4, 2009 03:43 PM

You can get away with it if you take most of the front toe out.
You want some neg camber to improve handling.

..just looking at your toe.
They didn't do a very good job with that.
R&L are at opposite ends of the OE range.

Personally I set my fr. toe to 0.00 to help with tire wear & improve turn in.

RBull Oct 4, 2009 04:25 PM

^ Are you running the rear on the low end too?

If I ever get these new tires maybe I'll get an alignment done to see if there's some improvement to be had.

Triton3.5 Oct 4, 2009 07:22 PM

Imo, your prolly gonna have to get some kind of kit to fix the front and def. the back end.. thats alot of neg in the rear. I had to get SPC's front and back,, didn't want to but glad i did. once you set the rear with some ones kit you'll be good to go,, and the front,, well i can litterally set my camber by looking at the car!! with the adjustable arm its really easy,, just jack up each side, loosen the 1.16" nut and slide in ( for neg) out for pos. you can also adjust castor if you want, in the front... i am NOT kidding on the eyeballing of the camber,, when i go to the autox track i can dial in what i want,, and when i am done i can set it back for nice wear on the highway.. yes, its not a comp. alignment,, but my basic settings are allready set,,, front toe, and rear toe, and camber.. which i would not mess with......

dofu Oct 4, 2009 07:29 PM

The camber does not look too bad yet... no neg camber is not that fun...

terrycs Oct 5, 2009 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Triton3.5 (Post 4603123)
Imo, your prolly gonna have to get some kind of kit to fix the front and def. the back end.. thats alot of neg in the rear. I had to get SPC's front and back,, didn't want to but glad i did. once you set the rear with some ones kit you'll be good to go,, and the front,, well i can litterally set my camber by looking at the car!! with the adjustable arm its really easy,, just jack up each side, loosen the 1.16" nut and slide in ( for neg) out for pos. you can also adjust castor if you want, in the front... i am NOT kidding on the eyeballing of the camber,, when i go to the autox track i can dial in what i want,, and when i am done i can set it back for nice wear on the highway.. yes, its not a comp. alignment,, but my basic settings are allready set,,, front toe, and rear toe, and camber.. which i would not mess with......

What tool did you end up using to adjust your UCA? I still haven't been able to get my torque wrench on top of that nut!

Maybe there is more room between the tire and the fender on your car because you have an X? On my S, there is no room to crank on a torque wrench even with my tires off the ground and pushing down on the tire. One slip and I would end up with a new fender mod.;)

Triton3.5 Oct 5, 2009 08:41 PM

Yes you may be right Terry on the car since mines an X ... But yes, i just bought a nice Craftsman 1/2" drive Piviting head, rachet, and all i do is jack up front left, or right,, and i got all kinds of room!!! but yes i do have to be carefull it don't slip off, cause i would dent or damage my fender also,, the nut is fairly low profile,,, but man its nice to be able to dial in any amount of camber at will :D granted, its not computer measured,, but i have looked at the car SO much, its not hard to figure out how straight up and down the wheel and tire is......

Alto101 Oct 5, 2009 09:45 PM

So if I want to bring the negative camber back into spec, what brand camber kit will fix the problem the cheapest? Keep in mind that I have a G37x in case it makes a difference.

Also, if you could pick the ideal amount of camber for street use, what amount would you pick?

terrycs Oct 5, 2009 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Triton3.5 (Post 4605799)
Yes you may be right Terry on the car since mines an X ... But yes, i just bought a nice Craftsman 1/2" drive Piviting head, rachet, and all i do is jack up front left, or right,, and i got all kinds of room!!! but yes i do have to be carefull it don't slip off, cause i would dent or damage my fender also,, the nut is fairly low profile,,, but man its nice to be able to dial in any amount of camber at will :D granted, its not computer measured,, but i have looked at the car SO much, its not hard to figure out how straight up and down the wheel and tire is......

Ah .. so you're not using a torque wrench - just calibrated arms?;)

terrycs Oct 5, 2009 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by Alto101 (Post 4605964)
So if I want to bring the negative camber back into spec, what brand camber kit will fix the problem the cheapest? Keep in mind that I have a G37x in case it makes a difference.

Also, if you could pick the ideal amount of camber for street use, what amount would you pick?

I think SPC maybe the only option right now. SPL might have them, but they are historically more expensive.

For street, just stick within factory spec unless you want to do something with aftermarket wheels. FWIW, mine are set up that way and I don't plan to change them.

Triton3.5 Oct 6, 2009 08:22 PM

Yes... calibrated arms...lol ;)

docaam Oct 11, 2009 12:56 PM

Are you sure we can adjust camber on OEM setup? as i have -1.17 and -1.08 degree...do I need to buy SPC front kit or there is a way to adjust this front??

terrycs Oct 12, 2009 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by docaam (Post 4619719)
Are you sure we can adjust camber on OEM setup? as i have -1.17 and -1.08 degree...do I need to buy SPC front kit or there is a way to adjust this front??

There is no way to directly adjust camber on the stock setup. You may be able to take advantage of the hole clearances by pulling/pushing the strut out as far as possible. You might be able to get closer to spec, but I doubt you would get to nominal.

docaam Oct 12, 2009 10:57 AM

thanks will try to get it like you said. but people are saying -1 degree wont affect the tyres that much as long as toe is ZERO degree? is that right

Triton3.5 Oct 12, 2009 08:00 PM

what Terry said on stock adjustments,,, all there is, is toe in front,, the car is gonna handle pretty well indeed with those 19 M's on there, 245/40 right,,, so being your even wider in front now than stock, you may wear the tires > more< than the normal 225 fronts... but i would get the toe spot on and run the car and watch the wear, maybe play with air pressure a little and see what happens.... gl...


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