14.4 at almost 98mph in my mostly stock sedan auto
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From: Kansas City
14.4 at almost 98mph in my mostly stock sedan auto
After waiting nearly two months to find a break in my crazy schedule, I escaped to the track tonight. I've actually been dreading this because I've never run the car and you never know what to expect your first time out. The only performance mod done to the car is the 350Z intake pipe.
Conditions today were decent, though not ideal. The track sits at 1100', temps were in the low 70s, humidity was in the 30-40% range, baro at a favorable 30.20. Calculated density altitude was 1,850'. I rolled into the track early so I could prep the car and make a couple passes on street tires before trying out my barely used drag radials from the Maxima. I removed my tools, DRs, and spare and my way to line. The all season crap Bridgestone Turanzas EL42s were at 34 psi. The engine was still baking hot from the 30 minute drive to the track. I got to the start line, put the tranny in manumatic mod and selected 2nd, and turned off the traction control. I rested my foot on the brake and gave it just enough gas to reach about 900rpms. The lights on the tree came down, I mashed the gas and instantly released the gas. The car instantly hooked up and slightly bogged then finally recovered by 3500rpms. I manually held 2nd to an indicated 6400rpms and shifted which forced the shift at 6800rpms and then held on and watched the scenry since there was no more shifting to do I made my run and was like "that didn't feel terribly fast". Maybe it's because there is absolutely no drama in the launch compared to my Maxima? I got my slip and my jaw hit the floor:
14.67@97.23 with a slow 2.34 60'
14.7s@95mph were my goal with the car in it's current state. That was easily exceeded. I instantly got back in line and knew the car could go quicker with a better launch. This time I held the brakes longer increasing the stall speed of the launch. The car felt pretty good off the line and barely chirped a tire, but the lack of drama on launch told me it was another 2.3. I got the slip and crapped my pants:
60' 2.215
330' 6.197
1/8 9.420
MPH 76.30
1000' 12.183
1/4 14.497
MPH 97.59
This F-ing car is quicker than my Maxima was in the same type of conditions and it's only .18 and 2mph slower than my Maxima did in 50 degree weather, with race gas, and no passenger seats!!!!!!! I was blown away. I would have never thought this car could go 14.4s nearly stock at my track. It far exceeded my expectations.
I parked the car and decided to swap the drag radials on and let the car cool. An hour later the lines were long which forced me to idle for nearly an hour before running. I got two passes, both of which were lower 14.5s@96mph with 2.19-2.22 60 foots on the DRs. I know the car was really hot, but I was convinced the 2.5" shorter and 13lb lighter DRs weren't helping me like I thought they would. I think they're actually too short and are effecting the gearing in a negative way.
So there you have it. A 14.6, 14.4, and two 14.5s out of a basically stock G35 sedan AUTOMATIC!!!! The 14.4@97.5 corrects out to a 14.1@99.6mph on a sea level track. I'm convinced this car can do lower 14.3s@98mph+ in cooler air.
Conditions today were decent, though not ideal. The track sits at 1100', temps were in the low 70s, humidity was in the 30-40% range, baro at a favorable 30.20. Calculated density altitude was 1,850'. I rolled into the track early so I could prep the car and make a couple passes on street tires before trying out my barely used drag radials from the Maxima. I removed my tools, DRs, and spare and my way to line. The all season crap Bridgestone Turanzas EL42s were at 34 psi. The engine was still baking hot from the 30 minute drive to the track. I got to the start line, put the tranny in manumatic mod and selected 2nd, and turned off the traction control. I rested my foot on the brake and gave it just enough gas to reach about 900rpms. The lights on the tree came down, I mashed the gas and instantly released the gas. The car instantly hooked up and slightly bogged then finally recovered by 3500rpms. I manually held 2nd to an indicated 6400rpms and shifted which forced the shift at 6800rpms and then held on and watched the scenry since there was no more shifting to do I made my run and was like "that didn't feel terribly fast". Maybe it's because there is absolutely no drama in the launch compared to my Maxima? I got my slip and my jaw hit the floor:
14.67@97.23 with a slow 2.34 60'
14.7s@95mph were my goal with the car in it's current state. That was easily exceeded. I instantly got back in line and knew the car could go quicker with a better launch. This time I held the brakes longer increasing the stall speed of the launch. The car felt pretty good off the line and barely chirped a tire, but the lack of drama on launch told me it was another 2.3. I got the slip and crapped my pants:
60' 2.215
330' 6.197
1/8 9.420
MPH 76.30
1000' 12.183
1/4 14.497
MPH 97.59
This F-ing car is quicker than my Maxima was in the same type of conditions and it's only .18 and 2mph slower than my Maxima did in 50 degree weather, with race gas, and no passenger seats!!!!!!! I was blown away. I would have never thought this car could go 14.4s nearly stock at my track. It far exceeded my expectations.
I parked the car and decided to swap the drag radials on and let the car cool. An hour later the lines were long which forced me to idle for nearly an hour before running. I got two passes, both of which were lower 14.5s@96mph with 2.19-2.22 60 foots on the DRs. I know the car was really hot, but I was convinced the 2.5" shorter and 13lb lighter DRs weren't helping me like I thought they would. I think they're actually too short and are effecting the gearing in a negative way.
So there you have it. A 14.6, 14.4, and two 14.5s out of a basically stock G35 sedan AUTOMATIC!!!! The 14.4@97.5 corrects out to a 14.1@99.6mph on a sea level track. I'm convinced this car can do lower 14.3s@98mph+ in cooler air.
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Nice runs Dave ... Wow on the trap speed. I actually didn't think it would be that low either, since your track doesn't seem to be the best with its little altitude deficiency. Your car is a mnoster up top .. and you said you thought the Maxima was better. I think as you stated it's the lack of drama with the launch. Case in point, I drove my friends LS2 the other night and it just didn't feel that fast, but the speedo was telling me different, RWD is great but we all knew that, just thought we were cool with all the excitment at launch with FWD.
DRs helpd 60's but hurt 1/4 .. has to be the gearing. Not sure but does the traction control still act even though the switch is off, isn't tehre a fuse you could pull?
DRs helpd 60's but hurt 1/4 .. has to be the gearing. Not sure but does the traction control still act even though the switch is off, isn't tehre a fuse you could pull?
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From: Kansas City
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Nice runs Dave ... Wow on the trap speed. I actually didn't think it would be that low either, since your track doesn't seem to be the best with its little altitude deficiency. Your car is a mnoster up top .. and you said you thought the Maxima was better. I think as you stated it's the lack of drama with the launch. Case in point, I drove my friends LS2 the other night and it just didn't feel that fast, but the speedo was telling me different, RWD is great but we all knew that, just thought we were cool with all the excitment at launch with FWD.
DRs helpd 60's but hurt 1/4 .. has to be the gearing. Not sure but does the traction control still act even though the switch is off, isn't tehre a fuse you could pull?
I'd venture to say the track was hooking good, but it's hard to say because I'm so use to launching with FWD and dealing with all the spin, wheelhop, and torque steer to get a decently low 2.2 60'. Just like in my Z28, low 2.2 60 foots don't feel near as fast in the G as they did with my Maxima.
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Originally Posted by KSU1998
I guess I will always be right behind you. In Maximas and other 4-doors.
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From: Kansas City
Originally Posted by trebien
If the drag radials are a lighter tire/wheel, and your 60 foot is less with them, it wouldn't make sense that the 1/4 takes longer...
Are you sure that the lower final drive ratio effect from the smaller drag tires isn't causing an extra shift before the traps? Something isn't right.
Are you sure that the lower final drive ratio effect from the smaller drag tires isn't causing an extra shift before the traps? Something isn't right.