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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Aftermarket 2 way alarm

I want to upgrade to a 2-way paging-type alarm system with the remote start feature. I was wondering if anyone has done this yet, and was wondering if it is difficult to install on this vehicle? I don't want to fu*k anything up, and I am considering having Infiniti install their remote start so I don't have to worry about it, but I really want more security, better remote distance, and everything in one package. I would prefer the 2 way page system as well. Any help is appreciated. If this is the wrong place to post, let me know too.

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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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Re: Aftermarket 2 way alarm

I got a TW-1 installed about two weeks after I got my G. It works perfectly, the remote start feature is VERY nice (esp. on nights like last night when it was 40+ out). I just leave my heated seats on, etc. and start it from inside (1/4 mile range)... by the time you've walked to your car, it's nice a toasty. It also has internal temp monitoring and tons of little toys to play with. Make sure you bring your valet key with you to the install, as they need to take the chip from it.

Talk to your dealership, and ask who they'd recommend, then talk to that person/company directly... saves you some $$ and time.

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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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Re: Aftermarket 2 way alarm

How does the immobilizer feature work since we have the chip in our key? Won't it be easy for people to drive away with the car once they've gotten in?

Was considering getting Compustar or Code Alarm both with paging.


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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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It's the same system as my old Pioneer alarm- unless the alarm has been disabled by the fob, the engine won't turn over. I've used my key to get into my car without disabling the alarm (it went haywire when I did), then tried to start the engine-- nada. To me, this is enough protection for this car, as it's not like it's a huge target for the experienced "jimmy the hood, find alarm module, disable, etc." thieves, rather by those who smash windows and try to drive off with your baby. The Infiniti stock alarm doesn't care if someone smashes your window, but this one does [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]

I'll leave the thieves to their E55 AMGs and M5s, meanwhile I'll just protect myself from thugs and those who hit my car and don't leave a note. Three times now I have gone out to my car from a restaurant/store to see someone who just knocked against my car. Got to love the 2-way page feature.

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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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Did you lose the "windows down before starting the car" bit? I like that feature and would like to keep it.


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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 04:02 PM
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That's my one qualm-- you do. You can still use the old fob and hold it down, but with my particular alarm, the "unlock" button can be held down longer to start the car. The "secondary" button (you choose from 10 options, then hit II once to enable it) can be held down to pop the trunk.

Now, you CAN set it to send a 5+ second "unlock" signal when you press the unlock button once. This partially rolls them down, but I'm not a huge fan. The only thing I can say in its defense is that you get the AC going long before you ever step in the car, and sitting down and hitting 4 buttons with two fingers takes about .1 seconds. I'm assuming all your windows are auto-down.

You give something up, but you gain quite a bit IMO. This, of course, is just the way I see it. I liked the gained benefits more than the lost ones.

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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Re: Aftermarket 2 way alarm

There are certain alarms that actually work with the transponder chip. The one I have is the Autopage RS-850lcd. The transponder only gets bypassed if I remote start the car. So if the car does not get remote started, the security is the same as factory. Even if I do remote start the car, the theif would need to turn the ignition to the ON position or else the car would shut off the moment he tries to drive it. If he does get passed the locked doors, the alarm, and try to get the key in the ON position, there are sensors built into the ignition that will automatically disable the vehicle. I'm not saying its "theft-proof" bue they would need to do this from the moment I start the car to the moment I sit inside.

As for the windows up and down feature... you would need a 5 or 6 channel system. Mine has six channels. So I can roll down my windows and ROLL MY WINDOWS UP with the FOB. You have to pay $50-100 extra for each programmed channel. It kind of sucks that you have to pay extra to get your original windows down feature. But if I carry around my OEM fob, I can still do it that way. I'd rather have the windows up feature which is why I don't mind. Remote start is great in the summer too!! The car is nice and chilled!

Oh yeah, the installer said it was a superb!tch to install on the G35. I've talked to a couple of other people that have the viper or clifford and they said their installers said the same thing.

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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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Re: Aftermarket 2 way alarm

So who makes the best 2-way system. The Clifford and the Viper systems look nice. How much total do you think it would cost? Around $500?

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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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afr0puff > Sounds like the AutoPage is an amazing alarm. Did you ever get a chance to compare it to the CodeAlarm TW-1 or the CompuSTAR 2WSS-AS pager, lcd alarms? If so, what are the plus' and minus' of either compared to your AutoPage? Thanks!


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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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I'm sure there are other pager/remote start systems that are better than what I have. The main reason I went with the Autopage alarm was from a couple of referrals from other satisfied users and a nearby authorized installer. My criteria was for the pager alarm to work with the transponder key and for it remote start a manual transmission. The only other one they had which fit the criteria was the Viper system with the same features. They didn't have the other two brands which you mention. The only difference between the two was price. The installer was pretty cool with me, mainly because he was impressed with the G35 coupe. It was the first one he had seen. He spent an hour with me discussing the features of these alarms and basically said that the Viper simply cost more because of the name. Also all five of the shops employees all had the Autopage system. Total cost for the unit and installation was $550.

One of the features I like about the Compustar system is the 6,000 feet range, but I'm not sure if that system works with the transponder. The autopage claims a 1/4 mile range, but that is only if its an open field. A good amount of steel and concrete sends that range to hell. Overall I've been happy with the "real world" range I get with mine, but it does get annoying when I lose the signal in a movie theater/mall. Response time is excellent. I've tested the system and I get paged within a second of the alarm going off. Those cell phone systems I looked into had a decent lag time. My main interest is to catch hit and run drivers since I can be within viewing distance of my car in five seconds while at work.

My advice is to pick the system that best suits your everyday needs. I don't know all the features of those other systems, but if someone has a question about mine for comparative reasons, I'll be happy to answer.

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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 02:03 AM
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I have clifford's RS3 with remote starter, window up and down, and field disturbance sensor, it works pretty good, it sure was hard for them to install it, it took them roughly 7 hours to do the alarm and it cost me 700 for the whole thing...by the way, clifford have new version for RS3, wasnt sure what they call it, and clifford and viper, and few others, are all made by DIRECT...s.w.

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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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Did the installers have to take the transponder out of one of your keys to make the auto start work? I have been thinking about adding an aftermarket Alarm systm with auto start, but the numerous places I have talked to said they will need the transponder out of one of my keys. They also said that the transponder security of my car will in effect be bypassed permanently. So, for example, if I were to put the alarm in Valet mode, someone could use a key without the transponder and drive off with my car.

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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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But on the other hand, if your car is stolen on the valet's watch... New toy! [img]/w3timages/icons/wink.gif[/img]

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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 08:18 PM
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That's why you have to find an alarm system that WILL WORK with your transponder key. Mine does. I'm pretty sure the other high-end alarms mentioned work also.

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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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thanks for the info. I will have to see if I can find an autopage dealer. The seven places that I have been to so far have only sold Viper, clifford, or other DEI alarm systems...and all of those will not work like yours will. With these systems they have to use the transponder from one of your keys and an additional module(I think they called it an immobilizer bypass module) and that it permanently disables the transponder but that the alarm had it's own starter disable so I would still be protected. One place even tried to convince me that it would be beneficial becuase then I could go to Wal-Mart get a key cut and use that key if I ever needed to.

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