05+ brakes compared to 03-04 brembos?
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05+ brakes compared to 03-04 brembos?
I was wondering what the difference between the actual size of the brakes that came on the 05+ g35c and the 06+ 350z and the brembos that came on the 03-04 g35c and 350z's. Reason I ask this is becuase I want to upgrade my OEM brakes on my 03 g35c and I am getting new wheels soon and I was told they dont clear the brembos but they clear the OEM brakes for my year. If anyone knows, let me know please. Thank you.
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Here's a rehash of a post I made a month or two ago about this exact topic that should settle any questions you may have about the differences in brakes between a Brembo-Equipped '03 and '04 Coupe vs a 2005+ 6MT Coupe:
The '03 and '04 G35 Coupe Brembo brakes have larger rotors than the newer Coupes. The front rotors are only marginally larger, but the rears are Significantly larger.
'03 and '04 G35 Coupe Brembo Brake Specifications:
-Front Rotor Diameter: 12.76"
-Rear Rotor Diameter: 13.07"
'05, '06, and '07 G35 Coupe Brake Specifications:
-Front Rotor Diameter: 12.6"
-Rear Rotor Diameter: 12.1"
There are other details to the story though aside from just rotor diameter. The surface area of the front pads on the 2 cars we are comparing is not the same between the old Brembos and the new Infiniti brakes on the '05 to '07 Coupes. The new Coupes have more front pad surface area than the old Brembos, but the newer Infiniti brake pads are also thinner in terms of width than the Brembos(which means that they are more prone to fade because the useable surface area of the rotor absorbing heat is less, especially when you couple that with the fact that the diameter of the Infiniti front rotor is slightly less than the Brembos). The front Brembo Rotors are also 4 piston calipers, whereas the performance version of the newer non-Brembo Coupe brakes are 2-Piston(which means that the Brembos will have greater breaking force applied to the pads as well as more even distribution of the braking power across both pads and all portions of each pad).
The surface area of the 2 cars front brake pads is something like this(for one pad)
Brembo Front(0304 Coupes) 8.73" Sq.
Infiniti Front(05-07 Coupes) 10.239" Sq.
As far as the rear brakes between the 2 generations of cars, there really is no comparison... the old rear Brembos are conclusively FAR superior to the new Infiniti rear brakes in all performance aspects. The rear Brembo pads are 37% wider(about half an inch) than the newer Non-Brembo ones, and the diameter of the rotor is drasticly larger than the new Non-Brembo brakes on the Coupes, which should significantly reduce brake fade, as well as the Brembo rear brakes being 2 piston and the newer Infiniti Non-Brembo brakes being only 1-piston.
The surface area of the 2 cars rear brake pads is something like this(for one pad):
Brembo Rear(03 & 04 Coupes) 5.34" Sq.
Infiniti Rear(05-07 Coupes) 4.24" Sq.
All that being said, the Brembo brakes will have a very significant amount of useable surface rotor area advantage over the non-Brembo newer brakes, both because of the increased diameter of the rotors, as well as the wider section of the rotor that touches the pad. The only real advantage to having the newer brakes over the Brembos is that they have more surface area on the front pads which means that they might grip slightly better when they are cold in particular over the Brembos(but keep in mind that the newer front pads are also thinner than the Brembos, resulting in less useable rotor surface area), .. but the Brembos are also 4 piston, which makes them a more efficient brake per square inch of pad surface area than the newer Infiniti Brakes. Aside from performance, the newer Infiniti brakes are thicker(measuring a new pad from the edge of the pad that would touch the rotor to the backing plate), which means that they are likely to last much longer than the Brembos. I believe they are also made of a harder material, which means that they don't grip quite as well as the Brembos and which is also the reason why the Brembos give off soo much more brake dust. The Brembo rotors also have a thinner wearout allowance, which means that they can't be turned that much(meaning you're likely to be replacing them much more, instead of just resurfacing them) in comparison to the newer non-Brembo Coupe rotors.
There is no question about it that the Brembos are the far superior setup in terms of raw performance when compared against the newer Infiniti non-Brembo brakes..... but the newer Infiniti pads/rotors last longer and dust less, as well as cost less to maintain.
The '03 and '04 G35 Coupe Brembo brakes have larger rotors than the newer Coupes. The front rotors are only marginally larger, but the rears are Significantly larger.
'03 and '04 G35 Coupe Brembo Brake Specifications:
-Front Rotor Diameter: 12.76"
-Rear Rotor Diameter: 13.07"
'05, '06, and '07 G35 Coupe Brake Specifications:
-Front Rotor Diameter: 12.6"
-Rear Rotor Diameter: 12.1"
There are other details to the story though aside from just rotor diameter. The surface area of the front pads on the 2 cars we are comparing is not the same between the old Brembos and the new Infiniti brakes on the '05 to '07 Coupes. The new Coupes have more front pad surface area than the old Brembos, but the newer Infiniti brake pads are also thinner in terms of width than the Brembos(which means that they are more prone to fade because the useable surface area of the rotor absorbing heat is less, especially when you couple that with the fact that the diameter of the Infiniti front rotor is slightly less than the Brembos). The front Brembo Rotors are also 4 piston calipers, whereas the performance version of the newer non-Brembo Coupe brakes are 2-Piston(which means that the Brembos will have greater breaking force applied to the pads as well as more even distribution of the braking power across both pads and all portions of each pad).
The surface area of the 2 cars front brake pads is something like this(for one pad)
Brembo Front(0304 Coupes) 8.73" Sq.
Infiniti Front(05-07 Coupes) 10.239" Sq.
As far as the rear brakes between the 2 generations of cars, there really is no comparison... the old rear Brembos are conclusively FAR superior to the new Infiniti rear brakes in all performance aspects. The rear Brembo pads are 37% wider(about half an inch) than the newer Non-Brembo ones, and the diameter of the rotor is drasticly larger than the new Non-Brembo brakes on the Coupes, which should significantly reduce brake fade, as well as the Brembo rear brakes being 2 piston and the newer Infiniti Non-Brembo brakes being only 1-piston.
The surface area of the 2 cars rear brake pads is something like this(for one pad):
Brembo Rear(03 & 04 Coupes) 5.34" Sq.
Infiniti Rear(05-07 Coupes) 4.24" Sq.
All that being said, the Brembo brakes will have a very significant amount of useable surface rotor area advantage over the non-Brembo newer brakes, both because of the increased diameter of the rotors, as well as the wider section of the rotor that touches the pad. The only real advantage to having the newer brakes over the Brembos is that they have more surface area on the front pads which means that they might grip slightly better when they are cold in particular over the Brembos(but keep in mind that the newer front pads are also thinner than the Brembos, resulting in less useable rotor surface area), .. but the Brembos are also 4 piston, which makes them a more efficient brake per square inch of pad surface area than the newer Infiniti Brakes. Aside from performance, the newer Infiniti brakes are thicker(measuring a new pad from the edge of the pad that would touch the rotor to the backing plate), which means that they are likely to last much longer than the Brembos. I believe they are also made of a harder material, which means that they don't grip quite as well as the Brembos and which is also the reason why the Brembos give off soo much more brake dust. The Brembo rotors also have a thinner wearout allowance, which means that they can't be turned that much(meaning you're likely to be replacing them much more, instead of just resurfacing them) in comparison to the newer non-Brembo Coupe rotors.
There is no question about it that the Brembos are the far superior setup in terms of raw performance when compared against the newer Infiniti non-Brembo brakes..... but the newer Infiniti pads/rotors last longer and dust less, as well as cost less to maintain.
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Nice review. I'd like to add that 4 pistons might mean more even force and maybe better brake feel but ultimate force onto the rotor is measured by total piston area. So one would need to compare the total piston area of the 2 non-brembos vs the 4 piston brembos.
But again very nice review and info. Thanks!
But again very nice review and info. Thanks!
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Nice review. I'd like to add that 4 pistons might mean more even force and maybe better brake feel but ultimate force onto the rotor is measured by total piston area. So one would need to compare the total piston area of the 2 non-brembos vs the 4 piston brembos.