YES YOU DO. If you don't elongate the toe bolt hole, then you won't get the additional adjustment range of the spc toe bolt.

 

on the ichiba toe bolt you don't, you can get it to the right specs without elongating the whole, it is not a spc kit

 

YES IT IS. Do you even know what you are talking about?

 

Ya I do , I have done 3 cars with the kit and didn't have to elongate it and the when i took it them to get it aligned they came out fine

 

Can you explain to me then how you can get additional adjustment of the spc/ichiba toe bolts without elongating the hole when the OEM eccentric toe bolts already cover the whole range of the stock hole? Post the ichiba toe bolt instruction sheet where it says you DON'T need to elongate the toe bolts

 

Define "fine" also.

 

i don't have the instructions to post up , but the toe bolts that came with the kits are like shaved on one side I don't know the word exactly for it , with that on the toe bolts that where able to have adjustment to toe on the rear

 

Fine , as meaning close to stock as you are able to get it to

 

That is because they ARE SPC TOE BOLTS. So not explain how by magically changing the name on the box to ichiba, they can now make their full range of adjustments, while the box labeled SPC cannot, even though the bolts are the same....

 

That can be done with stock toe bolts. I want alignment numbers and drop amount. Otherwise I call BS. Even without toe bolts and a 0.9" drop, I was able to get my car back to OEM specs, so you are still not proving your point.

 

Whoa, so they are boxed as ichiba , is this because SPC sells their products mass assortments out to other companies , I see your getting a little heated on this it's ok , I did this on 3 cars and they had no problem when getting aligned, even without elongating it the alignment shop was still able to adjust the toe thats all I'm saying

 

As far as proving points I really wasn't trying to you can call it bs or shenaningans or whatever , it dont matter , I never said it was back to full oem specs , I said close that it could be to oem specs, I'm pretty sure its not dead on , Redlude I'm not here to fight or prove points

 

Yes, SPC sells their rear camber kits under 3 names. SPC, Eibach, and Ichiba. There is no point in installing the SPC toe bolts if you don't elongate the holes. You are still limited to the stock adjustment range. Just because the 3 cars you did aligned "okay" (whatever that means since you can't provide any numbers) doesn't mean anything.

 

redlude is correct, 100% (not that anyone doubted him). If you don't elongate the holes, no point in installing the toe bolts.

I did notice the Ichiba kit does not come with the elongating template that the SPCs kits come with. At least the kit I did a few weeks ago did not.

 

just get the spc rear arms with the toe bolt