Do Big Brake Kits work?
so i'm pretty sure you were wrong.
it's pretty much this... BBK's don't fade whil under the pressures of constant breaking.... on my Base Model 350z i had the regular breaks and halfway up to canyon run it would hardly stop at all.... now on my track 350z, and on my sport pkg Coupe... you can definately feel the lack of brake fade during those same said runs. most people who have BBKs either: Track a lot or do canyon runs a grip... or like their car looking like pure SEX with those big calipers. Don't get anyone wrong... with an upgraded breaking system you will definately think you're braking faster but i'm not sure that you actually do.
it's pretty much this... BBK's don't fade whil under the pressures of constant breaking.... on my Base Model 350z i had the regular breaks and halfway up to canyon run it would hardly stop at all.... now on my track 350z, and on my sport pkg Coupe... you can definately feel the lack of brake fade during those same said runs. most people who have BBKs either: Track a lot or do canyon runs a grip... or like their car looking like pure SEX with those big calipers. Don't get anyone wrong... with an upgraded breaking system you will definately think you're braking faster but i'm not sure that you actually do.
so i'm pretty sure you were wrong.
it's pretty much this... BBK's don't fade whil under the pressures of constant breaking.... on my Base Model 350z i had the regular breaks and halfway up to canyon run it would hardly stop at all.... now on my track 350z, and on my sport pkg Coupe... you can definately feel the lack of brake fade during those same said runs. most people who have BBKs either: Track a lot or do canyon runs a grip... or like their car looking like pure SEX with those big calipers. Don't get anyone wrong... with an upgraded breaking system you will definately think you're braking faster but i'm not sure that you actually do.
it's pretty much this... BBK's don't fade whil under the pressures of constant breaking.... on my Base Model 350z i had the regular breaks and halfway up to canyon run it would hardly stop at all.... now on my track 350z, and on my sport pkg Coupe... you can definately feel the lack of brake fade during those same said runs. most people who have BBKs either: Track a lot or do canyon runs a grip... or like their car looking like pure SEX with those big calipers. Don't get anyone wrong... with an upgraded breaking system you will definately think you're braking faster but i'm not sure that you actually do.
BBK's give you more consistent feel and reliable performance in heavy use situations, due to their abilities to dissipate heat quickly. They also make it a bit "easier" to mess with your brake bias, but even that can be done by just slapping grippier pads in the front or rear.
I think most that run BBKs have upgraded tires/wheels also (to clear said bbk). Unless it clears the oem coupe 19s (many do).
If one can keep the 60-0 time near stock and gain a ton of fade resistance and pedal feel, consider it a success.
If one can keep the 60-0 time near stock and gain a ton of fade resistance and pedal feel, consider it a success.
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Rotating mass ?? My 2 piece rotors are lighter than my stock 1 piece rotors, wouldn't that be a reduction? Along with that , i also lost unsprung weight even with a 6 piston kit.
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Rotating mass is a tricky one to work out. The fact it is further out from the hub centre means you have extra issues. It;s like the 'rotating in a chair, and you stick your feet out'.. Weight is the same, but rotation forces change when the weight is further out.
Regardless, assuming a BBK and stock brake setup have the same weights and MOI, the only immediate performance gain a BBK could offer is in helping you lock up your tires sooner. Consistent performance in high-demand situations is the main aim of BBKs. Oh, and they look okay too.
Are you trying to sell the idea based on deceleration, or acceleration? The stockers are strong enough to lock up the wheels, so I hope you're pushing the latter....
Stockers can lock up with what type of modulation? How many times? For how long? Most have upgraded tires so that brings us to? On what tires BTW? Stock reo5os? sport pilots? turanzas?
Do you read any of my previous posts on the subject?
The stickier tires you run, the harder it's going to make your brakes work. This is not an issue in daily driving situations. If we're talking about race applications, I fully endorse BBKs.
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all things being equal, (road condition, tyres, rims), then a BBK will not make you stop any quicker. It may well feel different on the pedal, but there is no reason a stock setup will stop you any slower than BBk. Racing applications are another matter entirely. repeated stresses on the rotors, pads and fluid will mean that the cooling aspect comes into play. However, boiling point of 5.1 is the same on both.
I upgraded from my 03 brakes to 06 non brembos. Very slight but significant upgrade. 60-0 times are the same but w/o the need for very aggressive pad materials and touchy brake feel. Rotors for the 12.5" are heavier than the 11.5" versions. But it's what I suffer with for the other benefits.
The most I'd upgrade to is probably an OEM Brembo w/ 2 pc rotors if I could swing it. Most likely overkill but it's not an outlandish upgrade. 2pc rotors would be to get the weights down to my original oem weight or less.
I don't know if you guys realize this but you're preaching to the choir here (as far as I'm concerned).
The most I'd upgrade to is probably an OEM Brembo w/ 2 pc rotors if I could swing it. Most likely overkill but it's not an outlandish upgrade. 2pc rotors would be to get the weights down to my original oem weight or less.
I don't know if you guys realize this but you're preaching to the choir here (as far as I'm concerned).