purchasing ziano
#16
Originally Posted by tod071
Startazin-now you're in a catch 22. Zaino's good, but you'll probably need a pc to remove swirls. But, using a pc to apply the Z2/Z5 will use more, so better to apply by hand.
I found that out after being a Zaino user for years, but found a pc to get so much better results. My recommendation, forego the ZPC, get the Pinnacle XMT kit. Z5 is good as a sealant. Then top with a better polish than NXT, like Pinnacle Liquid Souveran.
I found that out after being a Zaino user for years, but found a pc to get so much better results. My recommendation, forego the ZPC, get the Pinnacle XMT kit. Z5 is good as a sealant. Then top with a better polish than NXT, like Pinnacle Liquid Souveran.
thanks,
my main concern is the swirl and the polish. we have 3 different car with 3 different color.
G = black osbidian
FX = dark silver/ desert graphaite
Maxima = green. Fresh paint. painted about 1 week ago.
I take care of of G well, althouh the G stays outside. So i need a good swirl remover and polish and sealent for the G.
Also, The Fx is my dads daily car. And all the dust and stuff in Arizona ist in a rough position now.
And for maxima. the cloro was bad so my dad repainted it. My brother also doesnt take care of the maxima
im seeking towards menzerna IP, FPII for polishing for all three cars. then FTG
then for Sealent Z2/Z5 for G and FMG or Z2 for the Fx
As for PC i found this site www.tools-plus.com, PC for $99
and im buying Lake country pads 1 orange, 2 white, 1 gray
thats about it for now
#17
Looks good! You could actually go w/ Z5 for all , instead of the Z2. I used Z2 & Z2Pro for many years and saw a deeper look with the Z5 on my DG G35 and Mil Silver GS300. I actually threw away the Z2 when I got my pc and Z5Pro.
Check out autogeek.net , properautocare.com, autopia.org for more forums and online ordering.
Check out autogeek.net , properautocare.com, autopia.org for more forums and online ordering.
#19
#20
Originally Posted by tod071
Looks good! You could actually go w/ Z5 for all , instead of the Z2. I used Z2 & Z2Pro for many years and saw a deeper look with the Z5 on my DG G35 and Mil Silver GS300. I actually threw away the Z2 when I got my pc and Z5Pro.
Check out autogeek.net , properautocare.com, autopia.org for more forums and online ordering.
Check out autogeek.net , properautocare.com, autopia.org for more forums and online ordering.
how long does i have to wait to remove Z5 0r Z2 without ZFX
i have lots of time in my hand btw
#21
First rule to Zaino, use VERY sparingly. If you can see an obvious haze, you used too much. To remove, you can use the "finger test". After a thin haze forms, swipe the haze with a finger. If it wipes clean, you're ready to be removed. If it smears, wait a little longer.
ZFX is a curing agent. If you choose not to use it, you will have to wait 12-24hrs to apply another layer. This has nothing to do with application time. With ZFX you can apply another layer once you remove the existing one.
With the color of your cars, you're better off just using Z5Pro. Although the Zaino site, as well as others, use the Z5/Z2 combination. Just different opinions, there is no right/wrong way. The fun part is experimenting and finding what works for you and your cars.
Have fun!
ZFX is a curing agent. If you choose not to use it, you will have to wait 12-24hrs to apply another layer. This has nothing to do with application time. With ZFX you can apply another layer once you remove the existing one.
With the color of your cars, you're better off just using Z5Pro. Although the Zaino site, as well as others, use the Z5/Z2 combination. Just different opinions, there is no right/wrong way. The fun part is experimenting and finding what works for you and your cars.
Have fun!
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#24
If you purchased FMJ, try that out and see if you like it before you purchase any zaino. Many on autopia will argue FMJ is as good as zaino, and no sense in purchasing multiple products that do the same thing. Also, pick up some more wash mitts if that's your only one, I use at least 3 per wash, and 2 buckets, seems like alot of your swirls are wash induced, so learn proper wash technique before doing any polishing or its just going to come right back
#25
Originally Posted by redlude97
If you purchased FMJ, try that out and see if you like it before you purchase any zaino. Many on autopia will argue FMJ is as good as zaino, and no sense in purchasing multiple products that do the same thing. Also, pick up some more wash mitts if that's your only one, I use at least 3 per wash, and 2 buckets, seems like alot of your swirls are wash induced, so learn proper wash technique before doing any polishing or its just going to come right back
yes, I have purchased one but have another wash mitt and i also use 2 bucket method
My car was washed twice at the dealer and one time at the shop agter i got into accident. After that i have been washing by myself. I would be more carefull this time to make less swirls.
I follow the method written by picus
any more advice would be apreciated...
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#30
Originally Posted by Sergei
Ok... very nice. What product and steps did you use to get to that last picture?
this was my first time detaling as u read other post in this thread. i was going to buy ziano but ended up purchasing a PC and Menzerna IP, FPII. FMJ and HGAS.
my steps was
wash
clay
wash
IP orange pad PC
FPII white pad PC
FMJ hand applied x2
HGAS x2
for some reson the last pic is kinda hazy but its not normally.
Last edited by blindG35; 01-16-2007 at 12:55 AM.