i love the p21s as well, but has anyone noticed that p21s doesn't last very long. i tried 2-3 days after applying p21s and spray a little bit of water and it just didn't react how a newly waxed car should react with water drops.

 

It was never meant to last long, its carnuaba based, but 2-3 days is surprisingly short, I'm sure the protection is still there for at least a month though

 

If someone wants to try some Pinnacle Souveran ($80 wax), Im selling a brand new jar (Never open). Pm Me.

 

What all are you applying to the car before the p21?

You should see around 30 days or so from p21 (depending on your location)

-bn

 

i use to use klasse aio but been lazy to do so. i have aio and klass glaze.

 

i use wax i buy from autozone its like 15 bucks a bottle

 

I myself see only maybe 2-3 weeks.

 

turtle wax I.C.E, I want to try smart wax though www.smartwax.com

 

Ditto...and even worse when I apply it at any temperature below 60*. Great wax, and I will continue to spend the money on it, but it definitely seems like a high maintenance wax to me.

 

Just went to the Smartwax site. I didn't know chemical guys use smartwax stuff. Look at this chemical guys one:



and Smartone one:



Look exactly the same. Must be the same and chemical guys sell there for cheaper. So is Chemical guys a relabel of smartwax stuff ???

 

You have it backwards, chemical guys likely produces the smartwax products, just like they relable products for many other "boutique" suppliers. A few include Adam's polishes, and rumors say poorboys products are also made by chemical guys. In fact, you can make your own custom products with your own labels. http://www.chemicalguys.com/articles...7&Redirected=Y

 

I've been using AutoMagic's Bannana Magic. It is awesome! here is the info.

Banana Magic™ is a final step VOC compliant cream wax designed to add a high gloss and rich luster to new or used vehicles. Banana Magic™ contains banana oil which emits a rich banana fragrance. This premium wax is a low dust, high durability formulation that is easy to use and lasts a long time. Sizes: 16 oz., 1 gal. For sizes larger than 16 oz., contact your local Auto Magic® distributor by clicking here.


http://www.automagic.biz/waxes.htm

 

Pinnacle souveran as nothing i have used even comes close on dark colored cars.

 

Low dust? I've never heard of any waxes that do dust. That's like advertising that your wax is low in caffeine.

 

Very interesting...Has anyone tried products from chemical guys?