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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 06:04 AM
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Safe way to remove sealant/wax??

I was wondering; is there a better way than using dawn liquid soap to remove the layers of wax I have on my G? In the past that was what I would use to remove wax. I read somewhere that it wasn't a good idea to use liquid dish soap. Also, is there a diffrence between a paint cleanser and a cleaner wax? I was under the impression that these two where almost like a clay bar, in that they remove contaminants from the paint. But then I wondered if I could possible use any of these two products, instead of liquid dish soap to remove wax from the car's paint. Thanks for reading guys. Take care.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 06:10 AM
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Dish soap and clay is the safest method IMO.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by OctoMan
I was wondering; is there a better way than using dawn liquid soap to remove the layers of wax I have on my G? In the past that was what I would use to remove wax. I read somewhere that it wasn't a good idea to use liquid dish soap. Also, is there a diffrence between a paint cleanser and a cleaner wax? I was under the impression that these two where almost like a clay bar, in that they remove contaminants from the paint. But then I wondered if I could possible use any of these two products, instead of liquid dish soap to remove wax from the car's paint. Thanks for reading guys. Take care.
Good questions. There are a few options to remove previous coats of wax. If you aren't ready to clay or polish your paint, then I suggest using a mixture of Isopropyl Alcohol and distilled water in a spray bottle. Use it like you would a quick detailer. Mist it on a microfiber towel and wipe your panels down with it.

Paint cleansers will clean the paint (usually chemically) and won't leave behind any protection. Cleaner waxes usually clean the paint chemically but leave behind a layer of wax (usually not too durable). Either one removes previous coats of protection. This is also why cleaner waxes or all in one products cannot be layered, since they remove anything left behind from the previous coat.

If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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I was wondering; is there a better way than using dawn liquid soap to remove the layers of wax I have on my G? In the past that was what I would use to remove wax. I read somewhere that it wasn't a good idea to use liquid dish soap. Also, is there a diffrence between a paint cleanser and a cleaner wax? I was under the impression that these two where almost like a clay bar, in that they remove contaminants from the paint. But then I wondered if I could possible use any of these two products, instead of liquid dish soap to remove wax from the car's paint. Thanks for reading guys. Take care.
If using dawn is not safe, I don't think Zaino would recommend it. http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...de=APPLICATION
 
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Agreed...and I don't think here and there is bad. But ultimately the Dawn will dry out your rubber and other non-painted surfaces. I'm guessing that Sal wants you to wash your car with Dawn once, then never use anything but Zaino again so no need to ever strip it all off again.

For people like me, who switch from sealant to nuba based on my mood a few times a year, there has to be an option better than Dawnto avoid any long term damage of that harsh a soap.
 
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I use the detailed image method.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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There are other soap that also remove last layer of wax. Chemical guys Citrus wash and gloss 2 capful to 1 gallon, Meguairs body solvent, Simple green APC 5:1.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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There are other soap that also remove last layer of wax. Chemical guys Citrus wash and gloss 2 capful to 1 gallon, Meguairs body solvent, Simple green APC 5:1.
+1 to this. a strong shampoo should do it
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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i use Griot's PaintPrep. thing is strong and easy to use.

i believe P21 makes a car wash that has detergents to remove polymers and
wax. some have used that with success.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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the only problem with dawn is it will dry out your plastic trim around the bottom of the car and near the sideview mirrors.. just use F21 to re-moisturize them....
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Smile Thanks everone for your input

Originally Posted by JOKER
Ha, ha; your funny Joker. But why use such a tool to strip our cars paint considering we have Nissan Paint on our Gs.

Originally Posted by Detailed Image
Good questions. There are a few options to remove previous coats of wax. If you aren't ready to clay or polish your paint, then I suggest using a mixture of Isopropyl Alcohol and distilled water in a spray bottle. Use it like you would a quick detailer. Mist it on a microfiber towel and wipe your panels down with it.

Paint cleansers will clean the paint (usually chemically) and won't leave behind any protection. Cleaner waxes usually clean the paint chemically but leave behind a layer of wax (usually not too durable). Either one removes previous coats of protection. This is also why cleaner waxes or all in one products cannot be layered, since they remove anything left behind from the previous coat.

If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

George
Thanks George for your input. So let's see if I understand this correctly.
  • Paint Cleaners
  • Cleaner waxes
  • Clay Bar
  • Polishes
  • Liquid dish soap
  • A mixture of Isopropyl Alcohol and distilled water
Can all remove previous layers of wax/sealants from the vehicle's paint? In regards to the mixture of Isopropyl Alcohol and distilled water; would I be fine using a ratio of 1:1?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Thanks again to all of you for your input. I washed my G yesterday with a drop of Dawn soap and a bit of Meguirs NXT car wash soap. I clayed my car with the stuff munkyv22 posted and for good measure, I also used Isopropyl alcohol and distilled water and wiped it down with a microfiber towel. I want to see what kind of results I get using Danase Wet Glaze, CG Jet Seal 109, Danase Wet Glaze, and a Carnuaba wax layered in that order. What do you guys think?
 

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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OctoMan
Thanks again to all of you for your input. I washed my G yesterday with a drop of Dawn soap and a bit of Meguirs NXT car wash soap. I clayed my car with the stuff munkyv22 posted and for good measure, I also used Isopropyl alcohol and distilled water and wiped it down with a microfiber towel. I want to see what kind of results I get using Danase Wet Glaze, CG Jet Sea 109, Danase Wet Glaze, and a Carnuaba wax layered in that order. What do you guys think?
You can skip the second Wet Glaze application.
 
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