To copper or not to copper, that is the question

Old Oct 6, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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To copper or not to copper, that is the question

Looking for some opinions on the motordyne spacer in DFW:

From what I have read, the additional copper piece in the copper iso spacer kit is used to warm the throttle body in cold conditions. If you do not live in a cold climate, the copper spacer/heater is not neccessary, as there is some valve in the kit that allows you to heat or not heat the TB.

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Seeing as TX weather is pretty random at times, and winter is approaching soon enough... would you guys recommend the additional copper piece for usage in our area?

I read that 50 degree air is potentially 30 degrees when it hits the TB under higher velocity conditions...I know of days where we have dipped to the 30s with highs in the 70s.

I'm almost convinced to just get the copper piece and "set it and forget it," but if its not really neccessary then why waste my money?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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I got the one without the copper pieces. theres a little valve that you install that stays off during the summer, but when it drops under 50 you turn it back on. didnt seem too much to ask for whats it like $100 less?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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basically you need to decide if it is too much work to pop your hood and turn a little valve when it gets below a certain temperature or not.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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skip teh copper, yo. the spacer and iso-gasket is a PITA enough, you will be pissed if after all that, you still have to mess with the throttle.... also, if you touch the butterfly valve to hard, you will need to do the re-learn procedure, which is damn near impossible. your back will hurt after the iso-thermal install anyway.
 

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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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With the Iso thermal kit (non copper), there is a valve that you splice into the coolant hose completely separate from the spacer and gasket install.

You turn off when it's over 55 degrees and turn on when it's colder than that.

If you're okay with that, then no need for the copper. If you want to just set it and forget it, then pay the extra $$ and get the copper.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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yeah the iso thermal was a PITA to install for sure. soo many bolts holy crap!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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id get better be safe than sorry
 
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny5th
yeah the iso thermal was a PITA to install for sure. soo many bolts holy crap!
I don't know if you bought yours new or used, but if you bought it used then it may have had something to do with how much of a pain you thought it was.

During and after installing my spacer, all I could think about was how glad I was to have bought it new. The bags of screws came neatly labeled and the instructions were top notch. Half the used spacers I see for sale on here don't have all the bolts and pretty much none of them have the aramid gasket that goes under the lower plenum collector or coolant diverter valve.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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bought mine new from MD and it was a PITA. if you don't think it was unpleasant, than you either didn't do iso-thermal or you had it installed im sorry
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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This is the first time I've heard someone installing a part because of how "cold" Texas weather is.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Ease of working on cars is all subjective. I'd say get copper.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Well, maybe it was more of a PITA cause i was scared ****less cause I have no previous experience of working on cars.

The instructions "were" really good though. Pretty rewarding in the end.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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i forgot which way is closed and which way is open....anyone got a picture of which is which?
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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if i remember correctly, if the switch is parallel to the hose, its open, and if its perpendicular, its closed.
 
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