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What is "Fast"?

Old Aug 21, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
I agree, these cars are not fast. But as others have mentioned, it's all relative. This is the fastest car I've ever owned, and nearly the fastest car I've ever driven.

I'm not going to spend the amount of $$$ required to make this car the level of fast that other enthusiasts would respect. However, I do have a goal to drive this car to a 1/4 time that is one of the top 5 for NA g's, period. I've been very selective in my purchases, and for my go-fast mods(stillen intake, mrev+, crawford cats, and stillen exhaust) I've spent right at $1000. These mods haven't given me a lot of power, but enough that I'm quicker than the average g.

I'd like to have a separate project car that isn't my daily driver, but I'm just not there financially. Until such time, I'm going to continue modding/enjoying my daily. Even if I did have a project car, I wouldn't have any clue how to drive something with more than 275whp.
I agree with you and with what your doing.
I think that a $1,000 is a reasonable amount to spend.
Let us know how your times progress in the 1/4, just takes practice.
I'm going to look into doing some of the same mods on my car that you have done.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Proporio
.....I had a '67 Shelby AC Cobra replica that I built, it weighed 2300lbs, 2500lbs with me in it. Fairly light weight car. Add to that, that I put in it a 427 that I had built to 450HP and you have a combo for a very fast car.
I spent just a little over $20,000 to build the whole car. Not $20,000 to just build the motor, but to build the entire car. Not very much money in my opinion for what I ended up with, which was a "hell of a fast, head turning car".
Who made the kit??? Why did you get rid of it?? A Chevy motor???

I agree with you 100%. I love my G. I also have a 1986 Buick Grand National that is pretty heavily modified and everytime I get into the G after driving the Buick I say DAMN!!! The Buick is extremely fast, in a straight line. Ask it to turn or stop and I need to plan ahead.

The G is a well balanced car from the factory. Just enough power for the chassis and brakes. Could it have more power??? Sure it could but I cannot justify to myself or my wife the exhorbidant prices of major league parts. I'll be happy with my Crawford cats and intake and save up for my own Cobra.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rlwjr1
Who made the kit??? Why did you get rid of it?? A Chevy motor???

I agree with you 100%. I love my G. I also have a 1986 Buick Grand National that is pretty heavily modified and everytime I get into the G after driving the Buick I say DAMN!!! The Buick is extremely fast, in a straight line. Ask it to turn or stop and I need to plan ahead.

The G is a well balanced car from the factory. Just enough power for the chassis and brakes. Could it have more power??? Sure it could but I cannot justify to myself or my wife the exhorbidant prices of major league parts. I'll be happy with my Crawford cats and intake and save up for my own Cobra.
The kit was from a company out of Buena Park, CA, can't remember the name. I bought it from a guy in San Diego, he has no previous experience with cars, but thought it was something that he could do anyway--apparently not. When I bought it, it was all in pieces, had been sitting in his garage for a couple of years. Seems like he just gathered most of the pieces to put it together, and that was as far as it went. Sold it to get extra money for the downpayment on our house. I just bought a 2001 Camaro SS convertible. I'm going to build the motor to about 600hp (internals & supercharger).
You will find a lot of Chevy motors in Cobra replicas, don't ask me why, but that is what I went with, I've had many chevy's.
I did autox a few times with the local Porshe club, they loved it, got more attention than any of their cars. Did pretty well, but it really wasn't set up to do autox, but in the 1/4, that was a different story--raced it 14 times, won each time, solid mid 10's.
 

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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by UFGatorG35
Great points Proporio, you hit it right on the head. As I've said tons of times, our cars are QUICK but definitely not fast.

What is fast? When your head gets snapped back and you feel your stomach drop like youre on a rollercoaster. When you have trouble reaching forward to grab ahold of something cuz youre half scared sh*tless.

Thats fast.

You are lucky enough to have had first hand experience with that one! Not everyone can know somebody with low 12 high 11 car.
Ofcourse, now I am broke.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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I know this is in the Drag forum....but

For me, "fast" is a totally different thing.

I don't get a big thrill out of running the G in a straight line for 1/4 mile.

To me, it is all about pulling G's in the corners and how fast the car can get around a road course. I could kill a car that is "Fast" in the 1/4 mile.
 

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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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We have fast cars that can beat so many cars out there- But like the guy said, we are considered and are "Luxury Sport" not "sport" car.

Our cars are faster than 99% of the cars in our price range (Faster than the pricey 330i's and a few other higher priced cars... and faster than all below our price range with the exception of mustang GT's, Evos' STI's, and S2000's. Maybe I missed a couple...)

Overall for the price, I think the G35's are the best out there. For most cars around and under our price, you get either great performance and crappy exteriors, good exterior and crappy interior and crappy performace...etc. But with our cars, we get a good mix of all. Thats the reason why I got an 06 G35 6Mt coupe.

Enjoy the car... thats it.
 

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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
We have fast cars that can beat so many cars out there- But like the guy said, we are considered and are "Luxury Sport" not "sport" car.

Our cars are faster than 99% of the cars in our price range (Faster than the pricey 330i's and a few other higher priced cars... and faster than all below our price range with the exception of mustang GT's, Evos' STI's, and S2000's. Maybe I missed a couple...)

Overall for the price, I think the G35's are the best out there. For most cars around and under our price, you get either great performance and crappy exteriors, good exterior and crappy interior and crappy performace...etc. But with our cars, we get a good mix of all. Thats the reason why I got an 06 G35 6Mt coupe.

Enjoy the car... thats it.
You forgot srt4's(stock vs stock, more srt4s will take g35's than the other way around), gto's, legacy gt, forrester, volvo s60, likely the new mazdaspeed3, the mazdaspeed6, and plenty of others. And don't forget all of fbodies.

You think the g35 is faster than it really is. Take your car to the drag strip on a test and tune night. If you're lucky, you'll be faster than 50%, maybe even 60%(depends on how many hondas show up that night). The cars that are slower than you will typically only be marginally slower. On the other hand, the cars that are faster than you will be *much* faster than you.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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^^^ditto.... take your car to the drag...... g35c is the top 20% of the slowest cars hahaha
 
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
You forgot srt4's(stock vs stock, more srt4s will take g35's than the other way around), gto's, legacy gt, forrester, volvo s60, likely the new mazdaspeed3, the mazdaspeed6, and plenty of others. And don't forget all of fbodies.

You think the g35 is faster than it really is. Take your car to the drag strip on a test and tune night. If you're lucky, you'll be faster than 50%, maybe even 60%(depends on how many hondas show up that night). The cars that are slower than you will typically only be marginally slower. On the other hand, the cars that are faster than you will be *much* faster than you.
I dont know where you live, but around here, by just looking at the cars around you in the road (usually do this on red lights), they are inferior performance-wise. I think maybe your just being a little too pesimistic. If you are comparing the G to the cars at the strip, you should obviously note that most of those cars are not stock, and even if they are, they are probably one of the ones you and I mentioned to be faster.

For a stock car to run mid 14's and around 5.6-5.7 0-60 for around 33k, is fast enough for me.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
You forgot srt4's(stock vs stock, more srt4s will take g35's than the other way around), gto's, legacy gt, forrester, volvo s60, likely the new mazdaspeed3, the mazdaspeed6, and plenty of others. And don't forget all of fbodies.
I think you better research this... because the G35 will beat it by a coupe car lenghts everytime. Try driving the mazdaspeed 6... youll see what im talking about (both by feel and statistics)
 
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
I think you better research this... because the G35 will beat it by a coupe car lenghts everytime. Try driving the mazdaspeed 6... youll see what im talking about (both by feel and statistics)
This is from Car & Driver on the Mazdaspeed 6
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...daspeed-6.html

"It whooshed to 60 mph in 5.4 seconds, a half-second quicker than the Accord, and covered the quarter-mile in 14 seconds flat."
 
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Proporio
This is from Car & Driver on the Mazdaspeed 6
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...daspeed-6.html

"It whooshed to 60 mph in 5.4 seconds, a half-second quicker than the Accord, and covered the quarter-mile in 14 seconds flat."
Good find... im actually shocked. It didnt feel like it, but I guess it is fast.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
Good find... im actually shocked. It didnt feel like it, but I guess it is fast.
It seems, more often than not, that
"butt dynos" and "feel like it" dynos aren't very accurate.
I suppose that is why the various car magazines actually hook
instrumentation to the vehicles that they test. To get real information
on how fast they are, etc...

Nothing against you, skaterbasist, but so many people post on here that
such and such a car will beat a G, or a G will beat whatever car, and they will
swear by it, without, any actual proof or numbers.
"my butt dyno tells me that I can beat an Enzo from a roll." haha
 

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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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To me, this car is fast. And $10k or $20k is worth it for me to boost the hp to supercar levels.

For some people, not too many "entertainment" costs are worth it (and putting 400 hp to the wheels is nothing but entertainment). Some don't like to go to the movies cause its gotten too expensive. They rent that DVD and watch it on the tv. To each his own.

I would spend the $$$ cause I love this car and I'd love to drive it with 400+ whp...
 
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