I moved this thread to the Drag Section; I felt it was more appropriate here.

abailey, a few things. First, I wouldn't spend the time or effort on either pulleys or headers. Many will disagree with me on the headers, but I just don't see any return versus cost/labor.

I'd also like to point out that although I typically run the 1/4 at Steele, I have run at Silver Dollar. In fact, I ran at Silver Dollar two weeks to the day after I ran at Steele this past March. With no changes to my car's setup, including tires, I trapped within .5mph at Silver Dollar(lower) as I did at Steele. And it was 10 to 15 degrees hotter the day I ran at Silver Dollar. So I would have to say that the two tracks are comparable for speed. I would much rather run at Silver Dollar however; much more professional track. And they are much more serious about safety.

The 03/04's are certainly capable of running mid to high 13's, but it's not going to be easy. I'm sure more have done so, but I've only seen two 03/04's do it, and both were six speeds. One is Bobby D, whom ran a 13.8 bone stock down to the tires. People like to mitigate this accomplishment due to the conditions in which he ran; while they were certainly a large factor, it still takes an excellent driver to achieve those times in a bone stock car.

The other guy is OneFast4DoorG35. He ran a 13.62@102.3mph in his 04. He's in North Carolina. I don't know what his mods were at the time of that run, but he listed his mods as Injen CAI, Stillen gen1 exhaust, and mrev2. He did this on street tires, and I don't know the conditions when he ran. And I doubt that he had the mrev2 at the time he made the run, as that was a very recent mod when me made this post: https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-sedan-v35-2003-06/108485-finally-she-done-no-really-she-done-time.html.

When you think about it, that is also quite an accomplishment. He ran a 13.62@102mph on street tires with nothing more than an intake and exhaust. I ran a 13.791@102.22 mph with crawford cats and a k&n filter on street tires, in 25 degrees, in my revup. In fact, his time is almost exactly my current personal best, but my personal best includes all the bolt-ons and drag radials. As an aside, the only reason I haven't included his time in the top25 list is because a: he doesn't have a timeslip, and b: it's not my job to scour these forums looking for times from people 2+ years ago; if they want on the list, they have to post in the thread. It's certainly possible that his time is marginally better(to the thousandths place) than mine.

So - I've established that it is certainly possible for the 03/04's to do it. But I must reiterate, it's going to be an effort. (More in the next post)

 

You might be lucky, and you might be able to get there stock or near/stock with excellent driving and good conditions. But, I think you're thinking the right way: I think it's going to take the average 6MT driver 260hp+ to get in the mid thirteens at ~102mph. I've done it, and while I don't consider myself to be average, I don't consider myself to be a top driver either(too many mis-shifts).

I infer that you're in/around the Atlanta area. You need to drop by Forged Performance in Marietta, or at least call them. You need to talk to a tech there named Michael.

Michael has an 03 coupe IIRC; regardless it's a non-revup 6MT. At FP's first open house last fall, he dyno'd in the low 220hp range on sharif's dyno. He was stock, except for a +2 degree timing bump. We talked a bit and got to know each other somewhat. I don't know what 1/4 times he ran stock.

That same day on the dyno I put down the highest peak hp of any g35/z there, all motor at least at 241.9hp. That was on my old motor, before the utec/tune or headers.

This last spring Sharif held another open-house. I was talking with Michael again, and he was up to ~245hp on his coupe on Sharif's dyno. That's what I put down(246 actually) on my new engine, AFTER the utec/tune and headers. I can't remember his mods, but I don't think he had headers, and I know he wasn't tuned. He also mentioned that he had trapped in the 101/102mph range at Silver Dollar, IIRC.

So, working from a lower base peak hp(low 220's), with bolt-ons he was able to match the peak hp of my revup, including my car's tune.

Find out what he's got done, and what he recommends, and you'll get to where you want.

 

I think Boddy D's and OneFast4DoorG35 1/4 mile times are largely dictated by the tracks they're running at. Bob is running at Toronto Motorsports Park and OneFast is running at Rockingham. Both of these tracks are EXTREMELY fast in the cooler months. Why are they so fast? I really couldn't tell you, but they clearly give meaning to the meaning of "some tracks are just quicker than others". Since so many G owners don't race, I can only go off of what I've seen at Maxima.org when it comes to cars running at those tracks. On average, cars that run at these tracks are about .3-.4 seconds and 3mph faster than other cars with the same mods running on different tracks and under similiar conditions. For example, there are 95-99 Maxima 5MTs with just DRs, Y-pipe, catback, and hacked airboxes running 13.8-14.0s@98mph at TMP and a very famous VQ35 auto Maxima with a staged 100/150hp shot of nitrous/i/h/e/slicks running 12.2s@112mph at TMP. 5th gen VQ35 auto Maximas are running 13.6s@101mph with just headers/slicks at Rockingham. There's also very famous Maxima owner with an 02 6MT, modded intake manifold/h/i/AFC/slicks/udp/no passenger seats that has done 12.6s@107mph (265whp, 3,200lbs car) at Rockingham. My favorite was when I watching ricer Nopi Tunervision and they were out at Rockingham. Drag cars were setting records left and right and the interviewed racers were constantly saying how they always run their personal bests at that track.

I've watched Bob's 13.8 run at TMP and you can tell the track was prepped to the "T". If you can find the video, you can hear just how grippy the track is because his tires sound like a sheet ripping has he launches. That's the sound slicks make when they launch and he was on OEM rubber. Once you get the launch out of the way, it doesn't take a whole lot of skill to shift at the right rpm.

The conditions and the track history play such a huge roll in how a car will run.

 

Ahhh i miss dragstrips. I need a new clutch, tires and tune.
BTW for anyone that cares LACR closed down. It shows how crappy the track was.

 

Trey: Thanks for the insight. I'll give Michael a call and see what he recommends, shoot or just stop by, they're right around the corner from me.

How much of a gain did you see with your Crawford Cats (HP or MPH gain)? I may get a set of those (or kinetix) here in the next week or so if you guys think it would be worth it. How much louder did it make the car? I'm trying to stay away from the annoying drone that comes with some exhausts.

Ordered the Motordyne 5/16" Thermal spacer kit. Seems everyone really likes those and am looking forward to installing that mod.

I would think that the HFC's would be the next logical step.

DaveB: Funny you mention all of those Maxima times, when i was looking for a car this time around I almost picked up an 03 6spd Maxima. Still glad I got the G.

 

I definitely care... just like I cared when Sadam was hung! Good riddance to that POS track!!!

BTW - So Cal... I keep hearing rumors that Terminal Island might start up again... as a legit 1/4 track. Not sure how true but one of the offices I work out of is not far from there and I'm hearing from multiple source around there... That will be great! As close to sea level as you can get and the best temps in So Cal!