Drifting in a 5AT coupe (how to?)
Originally Posted by Mike@RiversideInfiniti
ahahaha this is too fun.
Yes I'm bored.
you have like 2/32"s left on your tires anyways... you at the 1/32" marker yet?
Yes I'm bored.
you have like 2/32"s left on your tires anyways... you at the 1/32" marker yet?
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From: south jersey
Originally Posted by chinabean
Since we don't really have too many discussions about this, May we have some people who do successfully "drift" their 5AT coupes chime in on how to drift a 5AT? and maybe post videos and such?
it was briefly discussed in this thread:
https://g35driver.com/forums/showthr...t=drifting+5AT
but that was for a 07+ sedans
Basically the information that I got from there is use manual mode and feather the gas/throttle and something about getting a custom LSD or a new one? but that doesn't really help much on how to actually proceed to try to drift in our cars
it was briefly discussed in this thread:
https://g35driver.com/forums/showthr...t=drifting+5AT
but that was for a 07+ sedans
Basically the information that I got from there is use manual mode and feather the gas/throttle and something about getting a custom LSD or a new one? but that doesn't really help much on how to actually proceed to try to drift in our cars
where do you plan on practicing? are you driving on a sanctioned parking lot course? it might be easier to try to learn in a wide open flat parking lot. you could probably start by drifting a slower speed (1st, 2nd gear) course by holding it in gear using the manual mode. find your line and use weight shift to your advantage. use a feint motion by turning the wheel rapidly to the outside of the corner then rapidly back inside toward the corner apex. this will swing the weight of the car into drifting. the moment before you intiate the feint motion lift off the throttle for a split second. this will make the rear lighter. as you turn rapidly to intiate quickly give it full throttle, like a pumping motion. once the car begins sliding keep it full throttle. don't be afraid to bounce off the limiter while manually holding it in gear. the car won't "drift" unless you're in the uppermost powerband. now the hard part, as the rear starts to feel light and you can hear the rear tires start to smoke you have to release the wheel into countersteer mode. steer toward the direction you want to "exit" the corner and catch the wheel while keeping your foot on the gas. your car will naturally regain traction after the countersteer is complete. sounds easy enough right? lol i guess i'd first try doing circles (donuts) from a stop. i guess powerbrake it and keep the gas floored. and then do figure eights. and then bigger figure eights until you turn the racecourse into nothing more than a series of big figure eights. eh, i have a hard enough time doing this myself on my manual trans racecar. good luck! and keep practicing.
Thought you guys would enjoy this if you haven't already seen this.
http://www.gtchannel.com/content.php?cid=273
http://www.gtchannel.com/content.php?cid=273
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A friend of mine does it successfully. I've tried it once or twice before also but I haven't been as successful, although I'm rolling on 20's and he has the stock 19's maybe that's why.
I haven't driven my car in almost a year so I can't really remember what he does exactly but;
First you should turn the VDC off, then I believe he puts it on D and drives full throttle, shifts the car to neutral when he's picked up enough speed and then let's it hit the rev limiter and immediately shifts the tranny into manual-shift mode. I guess the best way to put it would be, the G looses traction at this point and it's basically up to the driver where it goes from there. He's a pretty gifted driver, so he has no problem whatsoever maneuvering once it goes sideways. He's done some pretty neat drifting around parking lot's and such, no mods to the car at all besides intake/test-pipes.
Still, seems too damn complicated, drifting is way easier on a manual. I used to have an automatic 240sx SE as a beater, all stock and rolling on 15's with the cheapest tires known to man lol although I could get it sideways, it took a little more effort IMO that it would have with the 5 speed...
I haven't driven my car in almost a year so I can't really remember what he does exactly but;
First you should turn the VDC off, then I believe he puts it on D and drives full throttle, shifts the car to neutral when he's picked up enough speed and then let's it hit the rev limiter and immediately shifts the tranny into manual-shift mode. I guess the best way to put it would be, the G looses traction at this point and it's basically up to the driver where it goes from there. He's a pretty gifted driver, so he has no problem whatsoever maneuvering once it goes sideways. He's done some pretty neat drifting around parking lot's and such, no mods to the car at all besides intake/test-pipes.
Still, seems too damn complicated, drifting is way easier on a manual. I used to have an automatic 240sx SE as a beater, all stock and rolling on 15's with the cheapest tires known to man lol although I could get it sideways, it took a little more effort IMO that it would have with the 5 speed...
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From: gee gee bby bby, Arizona
Originally Posted by G_prospect
A friend of mine does it successfully. I've tried it once or twice before also but I haven't been as successful, although I'm rolling on 20's and he has the stock 19's maybe that's why.
I haven't driven my car in almost a year so I can't really remember what he does exactly but;
First you should turn the VDC off, then I believe he puts it on D and drives full throttle, shifts the car to neutral when he's picked up enough speed and then let's it hit the rev limiter and immediately shifts the tranny into manual-shift mode. I guess the best way to put it would be, the G looses traction at this point and it's basically up to the driver where it goes from there. He's a pretty gifted driver, so he has no problem whatsoever maneuvering once it goes sideways. He's done some pretty neat drifting around parking lot's and such, no mods to the car at all besides intake/test-pipes.
Still, seems too damn complicated, drifting is way easier on a manual. I used to have an automatic 240sx SE as a beater, all stock and rolling on 15's with the cheapest tires known to man lol although I could get it sideways, it took a little more effort IMO that it would have with the 5 speed...
I haven't driven my car in almost a year so I can't really remember what he does exactly but;
First you should turn the VDC off, then I believe he puts it on D and drives full throttle, shifts the car to neutral when he's picked up enough speed and then let's it hit the rev limiter and immediately shifts the tranny into manual-shift mode. I guess the best way to put it would be, the G looses traction at this point and it's basically up to the driver where it goes from there. He's a pretty gifted driver, so he has no problem whatsoever maneuvering once it goes sideways. He's done some pretty neat drifting around parking lot's and such, no mods to the car at all besides intake/test-pipes.
Still, seems too damn complicated, drifting is way easier on a manual. I used to have an automatic 240sx SE as a beater, all stock and rolling on 15's with the cheapest tires known to man lol although I could get it sideways, it took a little more effort IMO that it would have with the 5 speed...
get videos up!
i'm getting better at it, but i keep flooring it and spin out like an idiot
Originally Posted by G_prospect
A friend of mine does it successfully. I've tried it once or twice before also but I haven't been as successful, although I'm rolling on 20's and he has the stock 19's maybe that's why.
I haven't driven my car in almost a year so I can't really remember what he does exactly but;
First you should turn the VDC off, then I believe he puts it on D and drives full throttle, shifts the car to neutral when he's picked up enough speed and then let's it hit the rev limiter and immediately shifts the tranny into manual-shift mode. I guess the best way to put it would be, the G looses traction at this point and it's basically up to the driver where it goes from there. He's a pretty gifted driver, so he has no problem whatsoever maneuvering once it goes sideways. He's done some pretty neat drifting around parking lot's and such, no mods to the car at all besides intake/test-pipes.
Still, seems too damn complicated, drifting is way easier on a manual. I used to have an automatic 240sx SE as a beater, all stock and rolling on 15's with the cheapest tires known to man lol although I could get it sideways, it took a little more effort IMO that it would have with the 5 speed...
I haven't driven my car in almost a year so I can't really remember what he does exactly but;
First you should turn the VDC off, then I believe he puts it on D and drives full throttle, shifts the car to neutral when he's picked up enough speed and then let's it hit the rev limiter and immediately shifts the tranny into manual-shift mode. I guess the best way to put it would be, the G looses traction at this point and it's basically up to the driver where it goes from there. He's a pretty gifted driver, so he has no problem whatsoever maneuvering once it goes sideways. He's done some pretty neat drifting around parking lot's and such, no mods to the car at all besides intake/test-pipes.
Still, seems too damn complicated, drifting is way easier on a manual. I used to have an automatic 240sx SE as a beater, all stock and rolling on 15's with the cheapest tires known to man lol although I could get it sideways, it took a little more effort IMO that it would have with the 5 speed...
This is NOTHING like clutch kicking. When you kick the clutch you're removing 1/2 of the friction based contact, and when you re-engage the clutch you're wearing down FAR more on the clutch disc itself than the gears in the transmission.
Klubbheads, I hate to argue with you, because I like you, but I have to...:
Originally Posted by Klubbheads
1. U need a clutch to kick if ur serious about drifting
2. U need much more power to do succesfull drifts at speeds over 60 mph
3. U need to practice on ur STOCK car before u go into suspension
4. If ur car is equiped with VLSD then LSD should be ur last mod after u are the GOD of drifting
5. U can do drifts with 5AT only powering out of a turn, that means there is no way u can start the slide before getting into a turn.
6. For what our cars weigh, we need atleast 500hp to be able to hold a slide at high speeds for long periods of time.
7. A good way to start is to hold a slide going in circles. It is one of the hardest things to do in wet weather.
2. U need much more power to do succesfull drifts at speeds over 60 mph
3. U need to practice on ur STOCK car before u go into suspension
4. If ur car is equiped with VLSD then LSD should be ur last mod after u are the GOD of drifting
5. U can do drifts with 5AT only powering out of a turn, that means there is no way u can start the slide before getting into a turn.
6. For what our cars weigh, we need atleast 500hp to be able to hold a slide at high speeds for long periods of time.
7. A good way to start is to hold a slide going in circles. It is one of the hardest things to do in wet weather.
2.) No you don't. Drifting is 99% about weight transfer. If you can successfully throw the weight of the car, you can drift at any speed. Once the tires are broke loose, it doesn't matter how fast you're going...they're loose as long as you can keep the car in the powerband.
3.) I don't want to say no you don't again here, because it's partially true. Practicing on a stock car is always a good way to go, but practicing on a car with a stiff suspension gives you MUCH better road-feedback, and will also teach you better technique. If you learn on a car that has body roll, you'll adapt your skill set to include body roll. Then, once you make the suspension upgrade, your skill set is now all wrong.
4.) I actually disagree with Mike here. I had an open diff, a VLSD, and a welded diff for my 240. Learning to drift on an open diff is REDICULOUS. Period. There is NO predictability to it. If you really want to learn how to drift beginner style, get a welded diff; they're the absolute most predictable of them all. I think my favorite was probably the VLSD though. I can't say anything about clutch type LSD's though, as I never owned one, and have never driven with one.
5.) Also not true. Like I said before, drifting is ALL about weight transfer. I drift my 5at from a roll all the time. Through parking lots, into parking spaces, entering an entrance, etc...
6.)
That is all. 500rwhp? No wait, "At least 500hp". again. Falken's G Coupe was making just under 500rwhp, and the coupes weigh MORE than the sedans. You saw the kind of **** that thing can do. Holding a drift is ALL about control. As Mike put it "power=/=drifting". Sam Hubinette is a fu<king joke. Anyone who needed 800rwhp to drift, is a ****ing joke. I have far more respect for the guys out there drifting the 250whp 240's than any of the big boy V8's. Holding a drift is all about steering angle, camber and throttle control.7.) +1 on this though
Oh, and Mike, tires with less grip is always a bad idea. You WANT grip while drifting. Grip=control. A tire with cruddy grip usually has a very unstable "slipping point", meaning you're as$ end is coming flying out and around you so fast you won't know what to do with it.
Whatta ya mean?
Vlsd will turn into an open diff VERY quickly 
I believe we finished off Eric (Klumzyee)'s diff in about 100 miles of hard driving after he started running with me
He's probably gonna get a REAL LSD now
I believe we finished off Eric (Klumzyee)'s diff in about 100 miles of hard driving after he started running with me
He's probably gonna get a REAL LSD now
